Poem

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  1. HHHNNN

    HHHNNN Active Member

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    Here, found this on the internet. Thaught you lot might appreciate it. Certainly puts stuff into perspective.

    "It's the Soldier, not the reporter,
    who has given us freedom of the press.

    It's the Soldier, not the poet,
    who has given us freedom of speech.

    It's the Soldier, not the campus organizer,
    who has given us freedom to demonstrate.
    It's the Soldier, not the lawyer,
    who has given us the right to a fair trail.

    And it's the Soldier who salutes the flag,
    who serves the flag,
    whose coffin is draped in the flag,
    that allows the protester to burn the flag"
  2. SatanSmiling

    SatanSmiling New Member

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    I was thinking exactly along those lines when contemplating the people demonstrating against the soldiers returning home.
    These soldiers are fighting for the very liberties they're allowed to exercise. I find it ironic that if the protesters were in a Iraq in Saddam's time they would have been shot for these things.
    And I think it's a good thing that we're allowed to demonstrate against soldiers (unlike in America) as the freedom to congregate and and freedom of speech are essential to liberty.
  3. Matt4017

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    I like that, 'tis going on my wall. This one's pretty good aswell.

    The Soldier stood and faced his God,
    Which must always come to pass.
    He hoped his shoes were shining,
    Just as brightly as his brass.


    "Step forward now, you Soldier,
    How shall I deal with you?
    Have you always turned the other cheek?
    To My Church have you been true?"


    The Soldier squared his shoulders and said,
    "No, my Lord, I ain't.
    Because those of us who carry guns,
    Can't always be a saint.


    I've had to work most Sundays,
    And at times my talk was tough.
    And sometimes I've been violent,
    Because the world is awfully rough.


    But, I never took a dollar,
    That wasn't mine to keep...
    Though I worked a lot of overtime,
    When the bills got just too steep.


    And I never passed a cry for help,
    Though at times I shook with fear.
    And sometimes, God, forgive me,
    I've wept unmanly tears.




    I know I don't deserve a place,
    Among the people here.
    They never wanted me around,
    Except to calm their fears.


    If you've a place for me here, Lord,
    It needn't be so grand.
    I never expected or had too much,
    But if you don't, I'll understand.


    There was a silence all around the throne,
    Where the saints had often trod.
    As the Soldier waited quietly,
    For the judgment of his God.



    "Step forward now, you Soldier,
    You've borne your burdens well.
    Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets,
    You've done your time in Hell."

    Go, as a Pilgrim, and seek out Danger,
    Far from the comfort and well lit avenues of life;
    Pit your very soul against the unknown and seek stimulation in the company of the Brave; Experience cold and hunger, heat and thirst and survive to see another challenge and another dawn.

    Only then, will you be at peace with yourself and be able to know and to say, 'I looked down the farthest side of the mountain and, fulfilled and understanding all, and truely content that I lived a full life that was of my own choice';

    We are the Pilgrims, Master
    We shall go always a little further
    It may be beyond that last blue mountain, barr'd with snow
    Across that angry or that glimmering sea".
  4. Peter.G

    Peter.G New Member

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    To play devils advocate though it's the soldiers of WW2 who stoped any sort of invasion.
  5. Matt4017

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    Just because soldiers aren't fighting in direct defence of the country doesn't mean their actions aren't necessary for the defence of western liberties.
  6. Peter.G

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    Doesn't it? They're fighting for the rights of the people in villages in Afghanistan - which is just as much of a worthy cause in my opinion. And if they take out certain Al-Qaeda leaders then they will also save a few lives here which is also a good thing.
  7. Sotiris

    Sotiris Moderator

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    Nice poems lads.
  8. Peter.G

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    And as for the first few verses of the poem, I am not doubting that it was once true but,

    We can't take pictures of policemen or public buildings without permission.

    Not if it's considered hate speech.

    If it's in a 1km radius of parliment, or many other buildings in london then you will need written police permission.
  9. ross90rmc

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    Still though Peter, the Soldier gave us all those things. It didnt say anything about maintaining them.

    There have been times in history were that poem has meant something. The soldier did, give us all of them. The press never, or the lawyer etc. So it is true. Just not current.

    I liked it anyway HHHNNN
  10. HHHNNN

    HHHNNN Active Member

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    *text deleted* I didn't write it.
  11. ross90rmc

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    I know you plank. I'm just saying :laugh:
  12. Peter.G

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    The soldiers protected them by stopping any foreign power coming in and getting rid of them, we were given them by the people who brought in the Bill of Rights, Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, the Magna Carta, Habeas Corpus and the European Convention on Human Rights.

    God I must be sounding like a real left-wing nut case now *text deleted*.

    But either way it is a good poem.
  13. ross90rmc

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    I'm at work in a hot office with 1, maybe 2 seconds of fan time every 10 seconds. sweating like a dyslexic on countdown, hot tired, bothered and not even halfway through a 12 hour shift. Peter, you certainly know your stuff matey.

    But i just cant be bothered with anything at the minute, nevermind following that comment up, as i would have to google stuff (didnt understand most of it) *text deleted*

    And yes you do sound like a bit of a leftwing nutcase.:toung:
  14. Peter.G

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    ahahahaha, permission to use that one? :D


    PS: I use google
  15. ross90rmc

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    granted matey! *text deleted* fair does thought you were a history brain.

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