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Hi guys I am new to the site, can't believe I just found it!

Ok so I am on the verge of applying but I have applied to the RAF and am in the middle of that process.

If I was to apply to the RM would they know about the RAF application and would it adversely affect my application?

I know it sounds like I don't know what job I want to do I just wanted to know my options.

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Hi, I did the same thing, i always wanted a combat role in the forces so started by looking into the Army that was a no... next I went to RAF discussed the RAF reg. which sounded good and ending up applying by this point I hadnt even spoken to the Navy Careers. A month or so later I was still thinking about the RM so discussed that realised that was the one I really did want to do and applied...

They knew i had already applied for the RAF as its the same AFCO and they didnt mind they just suggested i decide which one i want to go for and postpone the other, DEFINATELY check all of your options youve no obligation to them just because youve applied so dont jump into something still unsure if its definately what you want you could end up regretting it! (its also a good thing whichever one you go for when they ask why you want to join the... in the interview)
 

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Hi TS

Probably the RAF staff won't be over the moon about it but they'll appreciate your honesty.

Whether it affects your application to the Navy will probably depend on some other factors such as have you switched jobs a lot in your past, do you have a history of changing your mind and not sticking at things. Little things like that might come into the AFCO's mind.

So it will probably be taken into account but at the end of the day, if you can convince the AFCO it is what you really really want. Then they should be ok with you and it shouldn't be harmful to your application.

All the best, hope you make the right choice bud.

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Hello TS, welcome to PRMC,

Yup no problems doing dual applications mate, it's your choice. You can apply for Army, Navy(RM) & RAF simultaneously if you wish.

Much as many individuals may not like it as it complicates your selection/start date: As long as you let the other service know as soon as possible which job you're taking, then so be it.

On a practical level, it means you have to go through all stages of the selection process for each job separately. In reality, if I were interviewing someone for the Royal Marines, I'd rather hope they were dedicated to being a Commando, if they had simultaneous applications I'd suspect they weren't sufficiently focussed or committed for the Royal Marines, but would obviously give them the opportunity to prove me wrong.
 

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thanks for the replies guys I will take that into consideration! :D

This is a very good forum!
 

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Rather than start a whole new thread I thought I would carry on with the one I already started.

Im not really sure what I am expecting as an answer here but I was wondering if anyone else had kept coming back to the RM in their head even though applying for other jobs within the forces?

I realise that with my previous post is appears I have no f*text deleted**text deleted*ng clue what I want to do, but realistically I have 2 jobs I would like to do. One is in the RAF and is not Infantry and the other is be a Royal Marine. Now it probably sounds crazy to most of you guys on here but I am not sure I could see myself being a Royal Marine for 18/22 years, now I fully appreciate that there are specialisations etc so it's not exactly the same job for all that time but essentially it's still a combat role.

Anyway as I am looking for a full career I guess that is the only thing putting me off, I know it seems silly to be thinking about "well what will I be doing in 15 years" but I would like a full career and I could see myslef doing the RAF job for a full 18/22 years.

However (i know this is a long post sorry!) I also dont want to think what if......

I fully appreciate that 500 people may have already asked this same question but in the long shot that someone knows what I mean and has been in a similar situation (or just has some good advice ... ninja stoker :) ) I thought I would put this up!

Thanks again

TS
 

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Thunder it's just one of those many decisions in life with no wrong or right answer and hindsight will be no help either.

All I can say is that if you join the RAF you will have wished you had joined the Marines, if you join the Marines you will have wished you had joined the RAF. "The grass is always greener on the other side" is a thought that comes to mind.

One thing I will say is that it's possible to get through the RAF wishing you were in the Marines, but to get through the Marines, your going to have to want to be in the Marines.

Hope it helps
 

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As GW says, it's often a case of the: "Grass is Greener".

Now down to practicalities & actualities, whilst I have transferred former RAF personnel into the Royal Marines, I've not heard of a transfer the other way. Whilst it has probably happened in the past, the traffic is largely "one-way".

Having spoken to my fellow RAF recruiters just now: Once you join the RAF, you should not expect top be able to change trade specialisations within the RAF. It can occur, but the set of circumstances allowing this to happen are so remote as to give rise to the official line: "You cannot change trades".

Conversely, whilst in the RM you are always a Commando first & foremost, there are about 27 specialisations which you can specialise in, about 2 years after you join. This means you can identify a trade which is fully transferrable when you choose to leave. It's very difficult to predict how long you'll serve as you never know what is around the next corner. I thought I'd do about 4 years, then leave- still here 26 years later! The thing to remember, whilst it's appreciated you were not going for an infantry trade, unlike say the RAF Regiment or the Paras, with the Corps you can get a secondary trade whilst serving.

One thing I would caution you against is trying to do both - it can all go very pear-shaped. We recently processed an ex-RAF guy wanting to join the RN. He joined, after phase one training: decided he wasn't suited to the trade in which he joined- a miraculous set of circumstances arose & he was able to transfer to a shortage category trade without having to leave the RN. Day one of trade training, he decided he wasn't suited & wanted to revert to his initial trade. He was subsequently discharged, unsuitable during training on the friday. The following monday, there he was back at the Careers Office and wondered why no-one was remotely interested!

Anyway, when all's said & done, the choice is entirely yours, but hopefully that's helped you make a decision one way or the other. Best of luck.
 

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Thank you for the replies guys seems like sound advice to me.

I'll have a serious think and go for whichever one I really want to do, I appreciate the answers you both have given without saying "RAF are sh*t" etc etc

Thanks again now I just need to stop faffing and make a decision :wink:

TS
 
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