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Assault Engineer vs 24 Commando Engineers vs Royal Engineers

Discussion in 'General Royal Marines Joining Chit Chat' started by WilliamSteele, Apr 23, 2019.

  1. WilliamSteele

    WilliamSteele New Member

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    Hello,
    I was watching a video on joining the Royal Engineers () and saw one can go and join the RM. So I've seen basically three ways to be an Engineer in the RM and was wondering the differences.
    1. Go to CTC and train as a RM. Then go and take the Assualt Engineer SQ (which I was under the impression was the only option, and thus the only one I really know about).
    2. Go as a Royal Engineer and do this RM SQ.
    3. 24 Commando Engineers (something I bumped into on Royal Navy website: https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-or.../royal-marines/3-commando-brigade/24-commando).

    Any insight on the differences would be much appreciated.
     
  2. Omega

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    A lot of people get confused about this.

    The only definite way of becoming a Commando is by joining the Royal Marines.

    Many other Arms of the service undergo All Arms Commando Course to become a Commando but only it the role specifically requires the qualification. There is NO guarantee you can do AACC, no matter what the recruiter claims. Likewise if you join the Royal Marines there is NO guarantee you can specialise as an Assault Engineer.

    Once you complete AACC you become a Commando, not a Royal Marine.
     
  3. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    There are not 3 ways to be an Engineer in the RM. I'm not sure where you get #2 from. If you join as an RE you can opt to go for the All Arms Commando Course, (AACC). This is a 13 week course, after your full Army training, which will allow you to serve in 3 Cdo Bde. That work is currently carried out by 24 Commando RE, who I believe are based at Chivenor, North Devon.

    If you wish to become an AE, which I understand is a popular SQ, you will have to complete a minimum of 32 weeks of RT before passing out and then applying for the SQ when you reach your Unit and essentially waiting your turn for a course, which may involve taking a ping to a less popular SQ and completing a Return of Service.

    To my knowledge REs do not complete the RM AE's course, but happy to be corrected.

    Alan
     
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  4. dodgyknees

    dodgyknees Active Member

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    24 Commando Engineers are not Navy or RM but are an Army Unit who work in support of 3 Cdo Bde. To join, you must first do RE phase 1 and 2 trg (about 9 - 12 months in total) before requesting a posting to 24 Cdo Regt RE. If you are successful in your application, you will then be expected to complete the AACC (about 2 months). At the end of this time you will have a green lid but will continue to wear the RE capbadge and will remain in the Army. At no point will you be a RM but you will be part of 3 Cdo Bde.

    While some bright spark may be able to give a specific example to prove me wrong, it is highly unlikely that once you have made it through to 24 Regt you will be able to transfer to RM (nor will you want to having already undergone a considerable amount of training).
     
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  5. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    One additional thing to remember is that the AE SQ, comes nowhere near the level of expertise that the REs bring to the party. They are without doubt the SME on all things engineering within 3 Cdo Bde.

    Alan