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Can anyone help ? Deemed Medically Unfit

Discussion in 'General Royal Marines Joining Chit Chat' started by J18, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. J18

    J18 New Member

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    I received a letter today telling me that I can not join the Royal Marines because of a back problem I had in the past (5- 6 years ago) which was put down to growing pains and nothing else. I have never had any operation or medication for my back and to this day it has been absolutely fine. Is it worth challenging it or have they already made there minds up ? It was a shock to read the letter as I expected to pass medical no problem. I have wanted to join since I was 15 and haven't got a plan B so I really need this !
     
  2. RCTJ0012

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    Challenge it, get it looked at by a medical professional, have paperwork stating you are fit for service from said professional and send all the paperwork to Capita.
     
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  3. Chelonian

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    Firstly, don't flap at this stage. May I ask if your letter made reference to Permanently Medically Unfit (PMU)?
    One of the Careers Advisers on here can give you sound advice on what to do next.
     
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  4. J18

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    I just came off the phone and panicked, calmed down now-nailbiting- It was PMU but I just rang my careers adviser and I am going to make an appeal.
     
  5. J18

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    Thanks you !
     
  6. RCTJ0012

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    I was told by my CA that if you get made TMU or PMU and challenge it, there's an 85% chance it will be reversed and you'll be marked fit for service. This is only true if you can provide medical documents etc... saying everything is fine of course.
     
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  7. Chelonian

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    Good man. The term PMU makes the situation sound terminal and final but it's not.
    There's almost certainly an optimum way to frame your appeal so don't rush into it without researching how best to make your case. I've seen an appeal template somewhere on the forum but I can't find it just now.

    Either @CHUB! or @Ninja_Stoker will be able to comment much better than I if they spot this thread.
    Best of luck.
     
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  8. J18

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    Thank you, I really appreciate the help !
     
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    That eases my mind. I just panicked and came straight here for help. I really appreciate it !
     
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    I was made PMU because of 'back pain' 2 years ago when I applied, upon gaining the correct documentation from a consultant who basically said there was nothing from with my back, I was made medically fit :)

    100% appeal it but make sure you get documents that support your claim.
     
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  11. J18

    J18 New Member

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    Thats good news ! I’m going to make a big case to ensure that I get deemed medically fit.
     
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  12. Chelonian

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    Take a look at this:
    https://www.royalmarines.uk/threads/tmu-or-pmu-what-does-it-mean.107555/

    Additionally, if you enter keywords such as PMU, appeal, etc. into the forum search box you will get some insight into how others have dealt with it. Obviously the circumstances about their PMU will differ from your own but you'll get an overview.
     
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  13. westy

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    Mate, I had s back problem in 2017, they asked me to do a training diary and they wrote to my GP to ensure I hadn’t had any other back problems!

    I’m waiting to hear from the Dr as we speak
     
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  14. J18

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    I have been keeping a training diary but I haven't been lifting (because I'm a heavy lad) I have only doing running,push ups,sit ups and pull ups . What so you have been waiting two years ?
     
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    The tip is firstly to carefully read what the medical rejection letter says - if it is unclear or ambiguous, write a polite response to the sender of the letter and simply ask "under what circumstances could I, in future, meet the medical standards for entry?".

    The issue with lower back pain is if the medical records show it is recent, recurrent or long term (chronic), required medication, time off work/education, physiotherapy or similar - It clearly places the individual at a higher than average risk of recurrence in future, particularly during the rigours of recruit training.

    To be passed fit to enter, you need to show you can undergo similar (prolonged) physically demanding exercise similar to that encountered in Recruit Training (ie a verifiable training diary). You'll also need verification by a health professional that you are fully recovered, there's been no recurrence over a significant period of time whilst undergoing rigourous exercise.

    Good luck.
     
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  16. westy

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    No mate, but I also has other issues dealt with!!

    I’ve literally done what @Ninja_Stoker has said above providing all the evidence that the medical team have asked for!!
     
  17. CHUB!

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    Capita work to the black and white of the BR where as the Medical Cell can interpret it differently. I will always phone the Medical Cell first to see if it worth Appealing. Osgood Schlatters (growing pains) is not a bar to entry. The best bet is to be open and honest with your CA about everything as if they know the issue the Med Cell are able to discuss with them.
    Ask your CA to speak to the Med Cell and ask exactly what they would be expecting in an appeal letter so you are not wasting time and effort. Fingers crossed for you.
     
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  18. Wings

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    Military screaming for recruits and they fail you for growth pains. I get you need to be careful but christ they dont even look further into themselves. Need sacking now
     
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    I have one I was a little unsure on. On my Army Selection centre medical a bloke admitted to taking drugs 3 years ago and none since from his drug test yet capita deferred him a year. What the hell is that going to do for him? Pull him closer to drugs? Or get him in the Army get him some purpose get him away from it
     
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  20. J18

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    Thank you for all the help, its really appreciated. I have got an appointment with my GP tomorrow and I am also looking at a Consultation with a specialist.
     
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