Changing application from RM to RN?

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I applied for the RM and passed all my tests up untill the PRMC which i failed. After a bit of a think and doing some research i think i wuld prefer a job in the Royal Navy and was wondering if it is possible to change my application?
Having already done my tests, interview, medical, pjft would i have to do them all over again?
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Nope you should be fine bud, I did it other way round from you, i first applied for RN then changed my mind that i'd rather do RM. Didnt have to re do any of the tests i'd already done. but probably if you didnt get a good score in the appitude tests for the job you now want to do in RN then you'll prob have to re-do them again.
 

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thanks for the reply mate.
When i did the test the AFCO said that i had got a high score so dont think that wil be a problem. The RM pjft is a faster time than the RN one so that should be ok. The only thing i am not so sure about is the interview because now i am not going for the same branch, they may want to interview me again.
Not sure how it would work now tho, if i was going for RM stil i would have to redo my PRMC, but as i want to go for the Navy then in theory i have completed all my tests
 

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Matt has it about right.

To change from RM to RN (or t'other way around) is fine before you join, BUT you cannot change after you've joined- in most cases you have to leave & re-apply.

You'll need an Update Interview (shorter than the first) to ensure you are suited to the job which you now wish to apply for. Bear in mind, you could be suitable for your initial choice, but found unsuitable for another job regardless of which job you want to transfer to/from.

It's important to identify a job which actually suits you as an individual rather than just leap at a job that gives you an easier & quicker route to employment- there are many that opt for a quick fix & subsequently regret it big time. Please think about it very carefully & don't become one of the many that join the RN in a shortage category branch, then try to join the Corps because it won't happen if there's a manpower shortage in your trade.

To give you an rough idea: your selection interview is valid for 6 months, eye test, medical, Security Clearance & PJFT 12 months, Recruiting Test 3 years. Any element that expires needs to be re-done, together with your interview if you change your Branch of Preference.
 

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Ninja
If i want to find more info about the other job can i ask that at the AFCO, or will they think i obviously dont know enough about it already therefore not interview me?
Also, how long should i expect to wait from letting my AFCO know about the change to actually starting training?
Thanks
 

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You can indeed ask at the AFCO as that is why they're there- they would obviously far rather you join doing a job suited to you.

You can Download Information Packs from the official website, if you want to start narrowing down your options first, before you speak to a Careers Adviser. Your careers adviser will tell you which trades are available given your Recruiting Test score.

Different trades have different waiting times. The shortest would be about 3 months before you could expect to start training, from when you identify the branch you are suited to. Be aware, some trades have a 2 year waiting list.
 

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Im looking at doing something onboard a submarine but can find very little information on it. Obviously its not something i want to g into without knowing the ins and outs. Any idea how long the wait could be for that or would it depend on the trade im doing on the submarine?
 

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Most submarine trades are shortage category & have a relatively short waiting time of between 3 to 9 months. You also get a £5k bonus upon qualifying & get paid about £300 per month extra after qualifying. Each trade has a different waiting list.
 

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Being in the bussiness ninja, would you say submariner is a bad choice, jus on other forums they reckon it is.

p.s i know this is an RM site but its hard to get serious information of any navy site
 

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Your more than welcome to get any info you want Rob on any subject you need, even if it's not RM related.

So don't worry about that mate

Personally I'd not have the balls to do that line of work and my hat goes off to those guys.

GW
 

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Submariner is an excellent trade for those that feel suited to it.

Disadvantages:

Limited communication once on patrol (If anything happens good or bad at home, most elect not to be notified until they return to port)

Although you travel around the world, you don't get much by way of foreign visits as all UK boats are nuclear powered.

No suntan. (Hence the term: Sundodger)

Advantages:

Special service pay. (Lots)

Probably one of the most professional trades in the Armed Forces- there is no room for error & everyone has to know the submaine inside out- it takes a year training to become a submariner on average just to be submarine trained- THEN you learn your trade specialisation after qualifying as a Submariner first & foremost.

Nothing to spend your cash on whilst on a 9 week patrol, so you can afford to visit all those countries you have been peering at menacingly through your periscope whilst you were away.

A very transferable trade when you leave.

Hotel accommodation when out of base-port area (Surface fleet live onboard ship when out of base-port).

A less formal/strict working environment- a lot of mutual respect.

£5K (Pre-tax) Golden Hello.

I'd better stop there as this site is about Royal Marines really, however for those that do not make it as a Royal Marine, it should be borne in mind that subject to your Recruiting Test score, there may well be trades available for you in the Royal Navy- it's definitely worth having at least a look at alternatives, just in case.
 

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Appreciate all that, thanks Ninja.

One last thing, you say you dont get many foreign visits, so does this mean that i wouldnt be stopping at other ports as much as a ship? So i wouldnt see as much of the world?
 

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the_robmeister said:
One last thing, you say you dont get many foreign visits, so does this mean that i wouldnt be stopping at other ports as much as a ship? So i wouldnt see as much of the world?

There are foreign visits on submarines, but less-so than if serving on a ship- carrying a nuclear reactor is not always a welcome attribute in some countries.

You will almost certainly visit some overseas countries whist serving on a submarine, but it would wrong to suggest that it is anywhere near as frequent as on a ship. Like I've already indicated, the wages tend to compensate as you can afford to visit more countries at your own expense when on leave.
 

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Just a big thanks to those that helped with this subject. I start submariner training in less than a month and i know its the right thing for me. So thanks for the help and to this great website for all the help i got, both with my RM and RN applications

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Nice one Rob,

Glad you got hold of a very good trade, hopefully you'll still update us on your progress and hang around until you go.

All the best

GW
 

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Good Luck Rob- that was quick, you're obviously joining a trade where there are manpower shortages.

Hope you remember to wave as you drive by in your Ferrari! :*text deleted*:
 

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Congrats rob !. Not to be a downer or anything, but I was wondering why you failed your PRMC, I thought you would of passed top notch. Congrats again mate, reminds me of the Hunt for Red October *text deleted*.
 

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Good luck Rob, sub's are one of the cool jobs in my opinion, so thats great. 8)
 
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