Commando Observers?

MacheteMeetsBiscuit

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Been looking into them because they're still Commandos but apparently get a lot more travel and 'priority' than any other non-SF unit.

Royal Marines is a dream and even as a civvy I feel sort of 'attached' to the corps, but seen as it's potentially a life commitment I thought of just looking around at various careers before choosing one and this seems to be a possible option.

For the serving or ex-Royals: Have you had any experience, either training or deployment, with 148bty Royal Artillery?
If so, did they come across as a professional unit?

For Ninja: If he wanted to, could a member of 29cdo transfer to RM without doing RT, and are there many cases of this happening? And likewise, would it be necessary for him to start from scratch to join RMR, seen as they don't often make ex-RM redo the whole training process?


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Im in the Royal Artillery and have mates in 29 Cdo RA, some of them had served 2yrs with 29 cdo then gone straight over to the RM, as for 148 bty i did some jumps with them in gibraltor. In the Royal Artillery there seen as the elite and it probably helps that there in the same base as the SBS.
 

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From what I recall, 148 Battery is a unit which takes volunteers from Navy & Army personnel. Whilst they may work with UKSF & undergo certain common elements of training, like SFSG, they don't undergo UKSF selection, or if they do, it's only recent.

There are Royal Navy billets within 148 Battery for Naval Gunfire Support - usually filled by RN Communications Information Systems Ratings who go on to undertake AACC.

Royal Navy ratings in this trade can join - up to & including their 37th birthday.

With regard the Army route through 29 Cdo RA, the best bet is to speak direct to the Army with regard AACC etc., for definitive advice as although it's part of 3 Commando Brigade, the recruiting aspects are via the Army for 29 RA.

"In service" transfers from Commando trained Royal Artillery gunners into the Royal Marines are not unusual but whether they have to start from scratch in Recruit Training is determined by the RM Branch Manager depending on current experience & service qualifications.

News item , 148 in Gibraltar: http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/sitecor...est-news/2012/march/05/120305-gibraltar-tsars

Web Archive said:
148 (Meiktila) Commando Forward Observation Battery Royal Artillery Naval Gunfire Support

148 Forward Observation Battery's primary role is to provide specialist naval gunfire forward observation teams. The battery is an integral part of 29 Commando Royal Artillery and they have served in all major operations in recent history.

148 Battery principally direct naval gunfire but are also trained to control and co-ordinate fast jets and artillery fire. Each team has the ability to patrol in all terrains and climates and to recognise all types of armoured fighting vehicles and aircraft.

Each team also has an integral medical capability and each man is trained in survival skills and resistance to interrogation.

148 Battery is unique in that it contains both Army and Naval personnel. The teams can insert into the area of operations by any of the following means - on foot, by ski, by parachute, helicopter, boat, submarine or vehicle.


The small teams of highly trained men are capable of deploying into any environment and delivering all forms of indirect fire on the enemy, whilst providing detailed intelligence to higher formations.

Teams from 148 Battery have deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq
http://webarchive.nationalarchives....y-units/29-commando-regiment-royal-artillery/
 

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Thanks to both of you for this info, will have to have a good think about it now.
RM still tip the scales in their favour but it's been helpful to find out about 148 as a possible career option. 4/73 are another one but they're a very different kind of unit really.

Also read, admittedly on ARRSE, that there is the odd Royal who goes for 148 though these are few and far between because most RM interested in that line of work tend to go for UKSF instead.
 

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Im in the same regiment as 4/73, its seen as quite a good stepping stone towards SF as they do a intense hills phase in otterburn then go on to advanced patrols, OP's etc.
 

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Im in the same regiment as 4/73, its seen as quite a good stepping stone towards SF as they do a intense hills phase in otterburn then go on to advanced patrols, OP's etc.
Yeah, it's only rumours but supposedly they have an SAS Staff Sergeant permanently attached to them to ensure they are at the top of their game, so this (plus the hills phase you mention) would certainly be good grounding.

Don't they sometimes have a 100% failure rate though?
 

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In relation to the SF sergeant with 4/73 i wouldnt like to comment purely because of security. I think that if they fall below 4 people the selection gets cut. Due to the fact that they operate in a minimum of 4 man teams. In the past there has been times well the selection has been canned.
 

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Hey, does anyone know the future of 148 Battery? are they being taken under administrative command of the Royal Navy and becoming part of 30 Commando Royal Marines, therefore reducing the likely hood of a Gunner joining their ranks? or is this just another defense review rumor?
 

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Hey, does anyone know the future of 148 Battery? are they being taken under administrative command of the Royal Navy and becoming part of 30 Commando Royal Marines, therefore reducing the likely hood of a Gunner joining their ranks? or is this just another defense review rumor?
The RM will always need RA support I imagine.
 
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