Compartment Syndrome Fella?

Peeky

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Now that i'm finally up to entry level fitness i've been told I have compartment syndrome *text deleted**....not

I'm thinking of going down the route of not telling them and just pushing on thru the pain. because surgery means you cant enter at all or for 12 months (i got different answers).

Whad-ya-reckon?
 

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You have to tell them. And even if you don't, there is no way you could complete RT with compartment syndrome. I believe it's a permanent show-stopper, sorry mate, but do get that verified officially first.

I believe Terry John (from the Commando on the Front Line series) was diagnosed with compartment syndrome and later went on to join the Royal Engineers, so there may be other options available.

Can I ask what symptoms you have and how you were diagnosed?
 

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See the thread written today about lying/hiding the truth.

If you hide an injury and it flares up in the first 56 days, you'll be immediately discharged. Written into your contract.

Don't lie - either take the surgery and wait a year, or rest for a few weeks so it calms down.
 

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showstopper? *text deleted**text deleted*e..

I saw the Terry John episode, it said he got thru royal engineer traiing 10 months later.. not long enough to have had the operation then!

the symptoms are pain at the back of calf and numbness round the outsides and front.

My 3rd year sports therapist uni student mate thinks this is what i have, not a doctor, but it seems more than likely.

Even *text deleted** its bad at the moment i managed to run 5k thru the pain of it today. after about 15 minutes the pain goes away and it just feels numb.. then when you stop the pain comes back big time.

maybe im just kiddin myself

Mod Edit: please refrain from using foul language on the forum.
 

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Running through the leg pain means you are doing yourself more damage.
I had that attitude of just cracking when my problems started 2 years ago and it lead to more problems and consiqently was given another 2 year TMU which now takes it past my age limit.
Dont ruin yourself.
If the RM is your dream and you have the time get it sorted properly.
 

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Compartment Sydrome is serious and you would never be able to simple push through it in RT, the training is far too rigorous.

You need to be honest up front, but also get a professional diagnosis, not a uni student. I might turn out to be something else.

And kindly avoid swearing and text-speak on the forum.
 

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2 Years ago i was flying through the aapplication and had my date to start, Then i came down with Compartment Syndrome

I was devestated, I had gone from 18th stone to 13 and running miles every other day for fun in a space of 8 months! Too much too soon!

Anyway, Last Month I had my operation on both legs to release the compartments, The op went fine and i was sent home, The worst is the sitting around, not being able to walk and shower etc, but the other day I went for my first run in a year or so, Apart from my fitness it was AMAZING, no pain! back to how i was before although im going to take it slow but not too slow as im now 28, But fingers crossed this Horrible careerer stopping syndrome has gone

If anyone wants any advice about this , feel free to contact me or send me a message

Get it checked out!!
 

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here's a pic of my legs 6 weeks after the OP, as you can see, hardly notice the two incisions on both legs



If anyone suspects CS please go to your doctor, tell them what you think and if they agree they will send a referal to the hospital to see a Ortapeadic Specialist/consultant and they you can talk about your options, could take a while so get it all done asap, best thing i ever done!!
 

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I had it before I went into the army and due to being fit and able to push through the pain a lot of the times I managed to get in but due to the nature of the paras training it didn't take long for it to hit me badly so for anyone experiencing it before they start RT I 100% recommend resolving it by whatever means the doctor gives preferably surgery as I've tried rest and massage and insoles and nothing works.

Can't speak about the success of surgery myself but on hearing how Ben feels about it now I'm certainly going to finally bite the bullet and go to the doctors with my army medical records and ask to see a specialist!
 

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even if you have surgery is it not still a bar? even after 12 months?
 

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Im not too sure, will be going to the local AFCO and see what they say

But there's no other way to get rid of CS other than surgery, I work at a hospital, friends with my consultant who's also had CS and had the operation
 
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Im not too sure, will be going to the local AFCO and see what they say

But there's no other way to get rid of CS other than surgery, I work at a hospital, friends with my consultant who's also had CS and had the operation
It is very rare CS is fixed without needing surgery . Even then from what I've read surgery can have mixed levels of success. Some say its a miracle cure others say its only helped them a little...

Suffering from it my self I've tried all kinds of inserts, physio, massages etc over the last 12-18 months and all of it has helped slightly but fact remains 2-3 miles of running turn my calves into immobile rocks.

Fairly sure i'll be seeking surgery too, the podiatrist is having one last crack with my insoles (free of charge which is good of him) but i'm not hopeful.

Frankly i'm going to keep doing everything in my power to fix my legs not just for my career but for future enjoyment as i have a desire to take part in all sorts of running events.

Stokey
 

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It is very rare CS is fixed without needing surgery . Even then from what I've read surgery can have mixed levels of success. Some say its a miracle cure others say its only helped them a little...

Suffering from it my self I've tried all kinds of inserts, physio, massages etc over the last 12-18 months and all of it has helped slightly but fact remains 2-3 miles of running turn my calves into immobile rocks.

Fairly sure i'll be seeking surgery too, the podiatrist is having one last crack with my insoles (free of charge which is good of him) but i'm not hopeful.

Frankly i'm going to keep doing everything in my power to fix my legs not just for my career but for future enjoyment as i have a desire to take part in all sorts of running events.

Stokey
That is where I'm at too although I seem to manage some activities fine then suddenly suffer CS randomly for example I could play a rugby match one day then later in that week be on a run and have it strike me down to the ground, literally. I guess it is different for everyone, I managed to get into training with mine and last a couple of months until it got so bad I dropped out of a long run literally crawling up a hill to the jack wagon with the screaming corporal kicking me up the behind not quite realising my agony, it is however funny looking back on it! I just had a driving lesson and simply having to adjust the position of my foot on the accelerator messes my right leg up by the time I'm done. Also my mum is a podiatrist so I know by now my only option if I want to attempt being CS free, is surgery, which she doesnt want me to have :unsure:
 

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Your right, very rare CS is overcome without sergury

Also surgery doesn't have 100% success , Some people see no diffrence, some see little gains etc but around 75% see total dirrence and feel like they did before surgery, so with that i went for the Operation

Best decision, even if my career in the marines is over, at least i can enjoy running again, :women:
 
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Your right, very rare CS is overcome without sergury

Also surgery doesn't have 100% success , Some people see no diffrence, some see little gains etc but around 75% see total dirrence and feel like they did before surgery, so with that i went for the Operation

Best decision, even if my career in the marines is over, at least i can enjoy running again, :women:
Will you be looking into another branch of the armed forces?

Should the decisions be made that i need surgery to get it fixed and all being well i'll certainly be looking to the army.

As you say... regular running is my first concern.

Stokey
 

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Will you be looking into another branch of the armed forces?

Should the decisions be made that i need surgery to get it fixed and all being well i'll certainly be looking to the army.

As you say... regular running is my first concern.

Stokey
So Marines is a bar even if you were fixed? Strange. Well I saw guys in Rehab (Para-recruits) who had the scars I can't remember if I asked them about it I have a feeling I did so I guess it is accepted. But why would they accept you there and not the Marines (if you were fully functional)?
 
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So Marines is a bar even if you were fixed? Strange. Well I saw guys in Rehab (Para-recruits) who had the scars I can't remember if I asked them about it I have a feeling I did so I guess it is accepted. But why would they accept you there and not the Marines (if you were fully functional)?
Marines tend/ seem to be more picky.... Why would they spend time on someone who's got a physical weakness (because lets not forget even after successful surgery a injury will always be a risk/weak point) when there is probably 5-10 lads with out that weakness wanting his place?

Might seem harsh in the eyes of the afflicted party but when you're building an elite fighting force you don't need people who are less well physically equipped wasting your time.

Stokey
 

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Marines tend/ seem to be more picky.... Why would they spend time on someone who's got a physical weakness (because lets not forget even after successful surgery a injury will always be a risk/weak point) when there is probably 5-10 lads with out that weakness wanting his place?

Might seem harsh in the eyes of the afflicted party but when you're building an elite fighting force you don't need people who are less well physically equipped wasting your time.

Stokey
Well think of it this way, what about someone who pushed through serious physical pain to get there (i.e. passed numerous selections like I did) or someone who sought to get surgery at their own personal risk to be part of said corps/regiment.. Sucks if you look at it that way, but believe me I was aware of what you were saying and its true, I just feel how can it be considered a weakness if you can prove surgery was a success? Have you had word from a medical officer or AFCO that surgery for CS is a bar to entry? I don't know, when I was being treated at rehab they never seemed to mention this as I was still doing the stupid process of insoles and painful massage. However like I said there was people there who had surgery and must have been multiple compartment surgery due to being more than one scar I think. Anyway I guess until one of us gets told no from Marines/Army we won't know :evil:
 

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Also I don't know about you guys but as I've had this a long time and just battled through it I've found sometimes it wont affect me at all.

For example prior to going in the Army I played Rugby/Trained every day but on Sundays which I worked in a warehouse, so walking all the time.

Then once I began training to go in the Army I would only get it on a couple of runs out of a month and if I did most of the time I could push on (you know that feeling where they start to get heavy on you). Also mountaineering or tabbing I was fine, not a thing and that's with weight; I did a few 24km+ routes in the Brecon Beacons and a 20miler on Hadrian's wall just before I went into basic without even a twinge from CS so I feel some of it at least for me is brought on purely from footwear/terrain/type of exercise - Badly fitting trainers/hard ground/constant running.

When I did my first few runs in the army issue trainers I could tell instantly I was going to have a problem but I just got on with it and gradually as runs got longer and harder it got worse to the point I couldn't go on any more after a few miles as I said in an above post. But other than that boots were fine as well as on exercise with weight.

I did get authorised to wear my own trainers but due to the nature of the job my CS never really got a chance to wind down as I still had to march all over the place with it still sore.
 
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