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Considering leaving Fire Service to join RM

Discussion in 'General Royal Marines Joining Chit Chat' started by Quebec01, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Quebec01

    Quebec01 New Member

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    Currently considering leaving the Fire Service after 10 years to join RM. A lot of people do it the other way round so am I completely bonkers for considering this? I'm a ex pongo and to be honest wish I'd never left. I'm not happy on civvy street and if I was to rejoin the military it'd be RM as I like the direction the corps is going in. Would I be making a huge mistake to give up what I've got bearing in mind I would still have to get through CTCRM? Also at the ripe old age of 31 going on 32 this puts me on the brink of the age limit. I've considered RMR which would alleviate some risk but if I still wanted to go regular would I be able to transfer or not so?

    Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
     
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  2. The guide

    The guide Ex RAF, Ex Royal Marines, now RN.! go figure

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    @Quebec01 You can apply, as long as you commence training prior to your 33rd birthday. You will need to provide your certificate of discharge from the Army, as clearance will need to be gained - checks on your release circumstances & medical status on release are conducted, once this is done the AFCO can process you, some may still let you sit the recruit test as a starter as well, but you paperwork for the clearance is required to go beyond that point.
     
  3. 06061944

    06061944 Royal Marines Commando

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    You'd be absolutely mental to. Go RMR and do an FTRS contract when you pass out if you are still keen. FTRS can be anything from 3 to 12 months. Lads have transfered over full time from RMR.

    I wouldn't be concerned about your age physically passing out but to start a career from scratch at 32 when at that age you should be at least a sgt if not higher will only frustrate you. I wouldn't throw away a career in the fire service for what might just be a rose tinted look back at how sunny life in a green suit was.

    This new direction the Corps is going in, is a lot further away than people suggest.

    Remember, wishful thinking is the enemy of logic
     
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  4. sharpe

    sharpe Valuable Contributor

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    There was a similar post from a serving police officer last year I think and the response was exactly the same. Unless you’re at risk of being sacked or otherwise let go id seriously consider staying put and maybe exploring RMR. I had a similar dilemma a few years ago whilst in the police and whilst I don’t regret my decision I didn’t half make hard work of my professional life. Whoever said the grass isn’t always greener was a very intuitive individual!
     
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  6. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    Think very long and hard about it. You will know what the best course of action is.

    But giving up a 30k job with a damn good shift pattern isn’t a decision to be taken lightly.

    Have you considered your local RMR det? Get yourself down there, have a chat. The commitment is high for RMR though and you will need to square away your shift changes to enable all weekends are met.

    From RMR, once you are a trained rank you can go Fulltime Contract, and it scratches the itch.
    And if you do decide you like it, sideways transfer into the Regulars.

    Don’t rush into it. Having had some horrendous civvie jobs I still contemplate rejoining, and regret leaving at the stage of my career. So I can relate, as can many others.
     
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  7. epicurean

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    Definitely explore other options, I’m currently in recruit training at 31 years of age and left behind a highly lucrative civvy job.

    Training is tough, but easier I would say because my maturity level is a lot higher than the average person in training. That being said, you obviously get treated the same as the 17/18 year olds, depending on who you are as a person this can either be taken with a pinch of salt or it can completely ruin your time at CTCRM.

    I would strongly suggest RMR to test the waters, you’ve obviously done your research but keep in mind the huge pay drop you will take, the time away from your family(if you have children like I do) and also the physical effect on your body.

    Weigh up if it’s worth it for you or not in the long run, for me as corny as it sounds, this has been an ambition since I was a mouthy cadet at 12 years old and having been in Royal Marines training before I kind of knew what to expect.
    Despite this, looking back RMR would probably have been the better choice for me both financially and personally(the mrs isn’t at all happy about my time away so far).

    Don’t rush to make any career and potentially life changing decisions, spend some good time weighing up the pro’s and con’s of both.
     
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  8. Quebec01

    Quebec01 New Member

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    Really appreciate all the advice and info lads. As you've all said RMR is the most sensible route. I'm going to crack on with that and then reevaluate. I realise I'm quite lucky to be in the position I'm in and I'm grateful for that, but I do think I joined the Brigade too young as I'm still yearning to lead a different lifestyle and currently am disillusioned with it all.

    Thanks and keep up the good work on the forum.
     
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  9. Ninja_Stoker

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    Just to add, concur with the above with regard the RMR route.

    As mentioned also, once a trained rank in the RMR, there's a seamless transfer route into the regular service (Op Firefly). The advantage of the RMR route is no drop in pay if you keep your full time job, if you quit training, you still have your job, you remain largely at home throughout. If you join the regulars straight off, you become unemployed if you quit or are injured (a 50/50 possibility).

    As stated once a trained rank reservist you can go regular or take-up short term FTRS posts serving within the regular service (usually in 12 month blocks, currently).

    Advantages/disadvantages of both RMR and RM here; https://www.royalmarines.uk/threads/rm-vs-rmr.96516/#post-594782
     
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  10. JoeJitsu94

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    What do you mean by this? I'm currently awaiting prmc date so always intrigued by the opinions of the ones currently wearing the t shirt
     
  11. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    It means it’s still in its infancy, still being put into practise. It’s all good ideas, there’s no meat on the bones yet.
     
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  12. 06061944

    06061944 Royal Marines Commando

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    In the most general terms possible, FCF aims to re-role the Corps into a more niche specialised raiding force. With new ORBATs, structures and training cycles to help project this operationally.

    As pointed out by ThreadpigeonsAlpha, to change a unit from its current more conventional role to something on par with special operations, for want of a better term, will take time, funding and training.

    Then after all that it's a question wether or not the political will is there to send the Corps out on these new "operational" taskings.
     
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