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Craig To Be Honoured By Royal Marines
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[SIZE=-1]By WENN, 1st June 2008 JAMES BOND star DANIEL CRAIG is set to become a real-life 007 - he's to be made an honorary member of the British Royal Marines. ...[/SIZE]
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Hmmmm...Does anyone else think that all this celebrity honorary green beret business is getting a little silly?
 

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I disagree, I think it is good publicity for the Royal Marines.

It would be different if they were just handed out but they do have to earn them by completing the commando tests.

I do however think it is important that not just any celebrity is offered the chance to earn one. They should do something for the benefit of or be in some way linked to the Royal Marines (for example Chris Terrell and the Commando: On the Front Line documentary).
 

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I think this is disgraceful!

Earning the Green Beret isn't about being able to pass the Commando Tests.

Its about wanting to be a Royal Marine Commando and everything that comes with it.

Its about passing all the selection tests and proving in the interview how much you want it.

Its about surviving the 32 week training and only 25% whats required is fitness. The rest is determination, self belief, humour in the face of adversity.

50 of the worlds fittest men could go in as a troop but if they didn't want it enough they wouldn't have the drive to succeed.

In the end by earning your green beret you have proved that in a warzone, in the face of adversity you will battle on, hold your ground, put your life in the hands of your oppos and take theirs in yours.

You cannot prove this by doing the commando tests.

I think its things like this that devalue the green beret and insults what it is to attain it and be able to call yourself a Royal Marine Commando.

He wont be a commando, he will be someone who has been to the gym enough to be able to pass the commando tests. It wont be honour and the want to be a Marine that gets him through, it will be the fact he won't want to embarress himself in front of the worlds media.

Thats my view!
 

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I think this is disgraceful!

Earning the Green Beret isn't about being able to pass the Commando Tests.

Its about wanting to be a Royal Marine Commando and everything that comes with it.

Its about passing all the selection tests and proving in the interview how much you want it.

Its about surviving the 32 week training and only 25% whats required is fitness. The rest is determination, self belief, humour in the face of adversity.

50 of the worlds fittest men could go in as a troop but if they didn't want it enough they wouldn't have the drive to succeed.

In the end by earning your green beret you have proved that in a warzone, in the face of adversity you will battle on, hold your ground, put your life in the hands of your oppos and take theirs in yours.

You cannot prove this by doing the commando tests.

I think its things like this that devalue the green beret and insults what it is to attain it and be able to call yourself a Royal Marine Commando.

He wont be a commando, he will be someone who has been to the gym enough to be able to pass the commando tests. It wont be honour and the want to be a Marine that gets him through, it will be the fact he won't want to embarress himself in front of the worlds media.

Thats my view!




yeah i agree with you. all that is exactly what it takes to be a commando. not just the commando tests!


well said mate :iagree:
 

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I have 2 agree with u there Matt, you have 2 want it for life not just for the sake of getting one!
 

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to quote the article: "If he earns an honorary Green Beret, he will be following in the daring footsteps of Sir Jimmy Savile" - how the hell did Mr Jim'll fix it pass any sort of endurance course???? did he just send in a letter and award himself a Jim'll fix it medal and a green beret?
 

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Now then now then now then!
You reckon he can fix it for me to get my 3 mile time a bit quicker!
Its not must of an aspiration at 40 years old to 'follow in the foosteps of Jimmy Saville', he plays James Bond, I think it would be a bit of a backwards step in life!
 
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This is an insult to anyone who wants to become a Royal Marine (properly) and to anyone who is a proper Royal Marine. It sends out completely the wrong message, just a publicity stunt to for the new 007 movie.
 

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actually, just watched it again an its not as funny as i thought, think i was s*text deleted** faced the first time, oh well!
 

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I don’t think it devalues the Green Beret at all. If anything I believe it raises public awareness of how hard it is to achieve, which in turn makes it more prestigious. After all how can it be the coveted Green Beret if nobody in the world knows what it means to have earned it?

If you watched the 40 year old commando (one off Commando: on the Front Line spin off which showed Terrill earning his green lid) then you would see how much it actually meant to Terrill and how hard he worked to achieve it. He was that chuffed after the 30 miler he broke down in tears. He also said he wished he had joined up when he was younger so that he had a chance to be a true Royal Marine Commando.

Royal Marine Padres complete training as a non-combatant which means they follow a troop through training but skip ahead to another troop when it comes to weapons training. They still earn a green lid but at the same time they have not fully completed training - do they not deserve a green lid because of this? I believe it takes a hell of a lot more effort and determination for a Navy Padre in his 30s to transfer to the Royal Marines and complete the commando tests than it does for a young fit 20 year old who has been aiming and training for it best part of his adult life.

Historically it is actually the blue beret that was the symbol of the Royal Marine and you had to opt to do the commando course. It remains that only on completion of the commando tests at the end of the commando course you earn the Green Beret. Therefore if someone is invited to undertake the commando tests and passes successfully surely they have earned the right to wear a honorary green lid?
 

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well said mate its kinda a sticky arrgument isnt it *text deleted*
 

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well said mate its kinda a sticky arrgument isnt it *text deleted*
I was hoping to get a bit of a debate going as it seemed everyone had quite strong views on it however it seems to have gone quite now. :dontaskme:
 
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