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Current affairs at the moment and opinions

Discussion in 'Current & Military Affairs Discussion Forum.' started by GreyTintin, May 22, 2017.

  1. Grimey Arches

    Grimey Arches Well-Known Member

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    I'm just surprised that no news feed that I watched commented about it,

    Yeah I came across a few pics, looks like they're using C7's if I'm correct..out of curiosity
    does anyone know what those backpacks with quite large antenna's poking out are?.
     
  2. JWJ

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    The reason mainstream media won't have commented on it is they don't know the difference between the CTSFOs and the Military in the first place...

    I thought they'd be C8s, didn't spend much time looking at the pics. C8 is more of a carbine version of the C7.

    I found it funny that after Op Temperer came in, they removed the POLICE patches on their carriers etc.
     
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  3. DutyWretch

    DutyWretch Royal Marines Commando

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    Probably ECM.
     
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  4. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    The press commented saying it was SAS. And that certain things that go bang were used for entry, police cant use that method.
    So I would imagine some sort of joint Operation with Police and military would be more common given the threat and the situation.

    Aye or some sort of UHF radio. I am sure the yanks have radios that look similar.
     
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  5. Grimey Arches

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    Whatever it is they look like they're a pain to carry and must weigh quite a bit.
     
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  6. Clumsy

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    Found this.
     

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  7. JWJ

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    Don't agree that its a Colt Commando.

    Its got a stubbier muzzle and outer barrel than a M4 Commando, will assume they ment M4 Commando as Colt Commandos (CAR-15s), were phased out decades ago.

    That weapon in the image is much closer to your typical C8 SFW, which funnily enough is what the SF use. Love the media.
     
  8. JWJ

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    For those interested, C8 vs L85.
    [​IMG]
     
  9. wellmemedmyboy

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    All well and good that gucci kit wish I got it issued... but this is a reactionary move rather than what it should have been- pre emptive and cautionary first strike. Terrorists only have to get it right once
    Where are police patrols in day to day life? Not enough of them
     
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  10. GreyWing

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    No no no that's so wrong wrong wrong mate. English Common Law is far more important than any Human Rights. Common Law has developed in England over the last thousand years and is outside of politics. "Human Rights" is a made up BS term for a recent socialist political movement that hides behind a a strawman argument. It uses the term Human Rights as a shield to protect it from anyone questioning it because for anyone to question it suggests that the person doesn't like Human's having rights.

    Which is of course nonsense.

    You will get a lot more protection from Common Law than you ever will from the Human Rights Act.
     
  11. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    Aye that is a laughable picture. Typical media. It's like a Hollywood handbook.
    Single shot.... aye.

    As a famous player once said. [misquote] "Terrorists only need to be lucky once, the Security Services need to be lucky all the time"



    I like how that map just forgets where 45 is too.
     
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  12. JWJ

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    I guess RM is Army, seeing as the Map key stated Navy and RAF Bases.
     
  13. Duff1996

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    Maybe within a country, but what about when a state can't provide. There have been an estimated 40 million lives lost in conflict. There have been an estimated 240 million lives lost through state brutality. There needs to be human rights in the international sphere we live in.

    I wonder what 6 million Jews had they been alive after the holocaust would have to say. The Nazis acted entirely legally within the realms of their state. Granted, the legal system changed when they came to power, but it was built on thousands of years of law, similar to our judicial system.

    Human rights have not been formed from a "recent socialist political movement" at all. They were formed through some of the brightest minds in the World, of all political factions to deal with the prevention of state atrocities throughout the 20th Century. They were bought in to allow other states to intervene and effectively protect the lives of human beings.

    I always think when people call out Human rights, I wonder what they would say when the shoe is on the other foot. You find yourself in 1950s Russia in a Gulag, being tortured, not fed and basically left to die. This is legal under Soviet law, but your human rights are annihilated. Would you really decline the right to have them?
     
  14. Chelonian

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    From memory, the power to exclude a British citizen's return is reliant on that citizen holding dual nationality. This means that the UK government can legally revoke citizenship even if the citizen was born in the UK. It is a long established human rights convention that no one should be rendered stateless.

    ConsequentlyI understand that at least one UK-born former Daesh enthusiast is now languishing in Pakistan, separated from his UK family, and dripping about the UK government being vindictive. :)
     
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  15. DutyWretch

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    Alls well that ends well.

    Got to laugh at the 'vindictive' comments.

    Typical double standards ie 'I hate Britain and wish for the destruction of western society......But let me back in! I promise I won't stab you in the back...again'


    My favourite is hearing about IS volunteers getting threaders and trying to leave...but then being captured and getting a severe haircut...

    It's essentially Darwins law displayed beautifully.

    Ironically Charles Darwin being, I imagine, pretty much the antithesis to the comical beliefs of IS/Al Nusra etc etc
     
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    That flag is the flag Muslims use when at war. Since Isis are the only ones 'at war' then there they only ones using it
     
  17. Chelonian

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    Curious as to what weapon was used for shipboard assault and clearance jobbies in the 1960s and 1970s. The L1A1 SLRs might be somewhat long and unwieldy in confined spaces, so maybe the Sterling L2A3 SMG?
     
  18. JWJ

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    You used the SLR as though a pike, to prod the enemy either off the side of the ship or into a confined space.
     
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    Ingram Mac 10.

    Perhaps!
     
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  20. Chelonian

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    Mind your fingers! :)