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oliob

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Hi all.

Joining the Marines is something that has always interested me and I have had my heart set since the age of 10. I have then joined the Royal Marine Cadets and am now coming up to my 16th birthday. I face a dilemma as I have quite frankly had enough of school and I very much doubt I could get through another 2 years. My expected grades are quite could with most being in the bracket of 7-9 (A's) and as I have been training to join up from 13/14 my fitness is quite good. Being a corporal now in cadets I have a key leadership role and feel I would like to enter as an officer but obviously, I could not do this without at least completing my A levels but as previously explained I would not like to carry on at school. So I am now almost adamant that I will join after completing my GCSE's. Whatever happens, I will join the Marines and either stay on within the ranks or I could go for a corp commision. I know I would be without A-levels but I have downloaded a specialisation guide from 2015 (attached below with a screenshot of the relevant page in the other attachment below)and within is mentioned corps commissions and according to this only 5 GCSE's A-C are needed to be eligible. I am aware that corp commisions are rare and most would not be put forward until completing JCC and I would spend a good few years in the ranks before even enquiring about a corp commision. I would just like to hear any thoughts on this and whether this could be possible in reality?

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dodgyknees

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You must ask yourself, do you want to be an officer or a marine? Both have pros and cons which you must fully understand. It looks like you want to be an officer in which case I would strongly advise you to stay at school and get your A levels (at least). Corps Commissions are so rare that you should not join thinking this is a realistic alternative to getting your qualifications and joining direct as an officer.

Without being pessimistic, what happens if you don't get in. You sound like a bright lad, leaving school with just GCSEs if you are capable of more will drastically inhibit your career choices.

As I say, stay at school, get your qualifications and then join. You are still young and two years is nothing in the greater scheme of things.
 

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I have then joined the Royal Marine Cadets and am now coming up to my 16th birthday.

Just some general observations from me. Others on here are far better placed to answer your specific questions.

Firstly, Corps Commissions are very few and the pool of talent competing for them is very large. If your primary desired career choice is Officer you are arguably disadvantaging yourself by joining as Other Rank simply because of numbers.

Like you, I too was sick of school at age fifteen. I'll wager that there are other old fuds on here who felt much the same. But what you now have is a clear career goal to focus on.

Have a good think about education opportunities available to you and make the system work for you. Sick of school? Okay, but is there a sixth form college close by at which you could study 'A' levels?
Consider talking about your career plans with your school head of year. Be honest about your reluctance to stay on.

I was a bit of a handful at school by the age of fifteen. If the same applies to you, perhaps now is a good time to focus on your goal and adjust attitude accordingly. Again, perhaps something to have an honest chat about with your head of year.

Aside from academics, school or college provides plenty of opportunity to further develop leadership skills at minimal cost. The Duke of Edinburgh's Award springs to mind. If your school doesn't do it, be proactive and discuss with your school how it might participate.

Consider adjusting your mindset from that of a school kid to a young man with a clear purpose in life. Once you start demonstrating such traits your teaching staff's attitude towards you will almost certainly reflect the change in yourself.

Just to echo the comment above by @dodgyknees regardless of whether you go Other Rank or Officer you will need to dig deep for determination and resilience to be selected and pass either course. Arguably much more so than for just another two years at school.

Finally, think hard about whether you truly want to be an Officer. There are plenty of leadership roles available for Other Ranks, as your Cadet experience has already shown you. Being an Officer is not intrinsically 'better' than Other Rank; but it is different.

At your age, the world really is your lobster. Whatever choices you make, ensure that they are informed choices; don't let youself drift.

Here endeth the essay. :)
Let us know how you get on. Best of luck.
 

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My understanding is that if you join as an OR and are fortunate to get a Corps' Commission, then if, for any reason, you do not cut the mustard then you're out. There is no going back to the ranks. @Ninja_Stoker will hopefully confirm, or otherwise.

Good luck

Alan
 

oliob

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Thanks for the help I will have good hard look at my situation and see what my best bet is
 

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Fully endorse the comments above.

My advice? Talk to your AFCO, specifically the Area Careers Liaison Officer and request that you are invited to attend the next available Potential Officer's Visit (POV) so you can see if it's for you.

For many, particularly those wanting to be on the ground at the sharp end for a large chunk of their career, graduates included, Other Rank is the logical route.

Many people join not knowing what an Officer does, a POV gives you the knowledge to make the choice. Bottom line, as already indicated, the only assured route to becoming an Officer is by joining as one.

Good luck.
 

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