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Draft frequency/structure of commando units

Discussion in 'General Royal Marines Joining Chit Chat' started by Steeplejackb, Apr 4, 2019.

  1. Steeplejackb

    Steeplejackb New Member

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    So as i understand it you can expect a new draft every 2 years (ish).

    With new young officers going to troop commands after CTC, and presumably a constant rotation of blokes within that troop due to the 2 year draft, how does this affect unit cohesion?

    I understand not all troop commanders are new YO's, but at troops across a unit what is the flow of lads in and out like? Surely a close knit troop who have known each other years would be a more effective fighting force than if members of the troop were constantly on the move?

    I understand this has to be balanced with career progression and the "corps of specialists" setup, but I can't envisage how a constant flow of Royals throughout the corps is any good for morale/unit cohesion.

    Going back to the YO's first troop command, I am attracted to the idea of leading a close knit group of lads for the draft, and am less enthused by the thought there may be upheavels every few months with personalities within the unit coming and going, not to mention the JNCO's.

    Am I facing up to the realities of what a YO may experience or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
     
  2. Chelonian

    Chelonian Moderator

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    I can only comment from an Army perspective. Others here can express an RM-specific opinion.

    Few things remains static at a unit. Personalities come and go for a variety of reasons. Maintaining the effectiveness of a Troop or Platoon regardless of change is a big part of the job. Fortunately one's SNCO will have a firm grip but make no mistake the buck stops with the boss.
     
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    Steeplejackb New Member

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    Thanks for your reply @Chelonian , i suppose at the end of the day it is a workplace, and I don't know of anywhere that doesn't have a flow of employees in and out.

    Of course in the corps the stakes are higher than in your everyday workplace. As an aspiring officer I plan to one day meet and surpass this challenge.
     
  4. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    Trickle drafting has been used in the Corps for decades now without any real problems. Guys come and go all the time with courses, promotions and going outside, including the characters and tossers!

    Alan
     
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    Steeplejackb New Member

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    Cheers for your input @Caversham, I never thought of the tossers!
     
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    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    There’s a few good and bad points to the system.
    But your not always moving every 2 years, you might get forgotten about or your SQ situation dictates that you can lock into your unit for X amount of years.

    For example, you may be in an SQ with a smaller amount of blokes, and everyone is happy with their drafts. So a switched on branch advisor will try and keep everyone at their units rather than moving them.

    You can end up spending more than 2 years at a Unit, it’s luck of the draw really.

    You could end up spending 9 months. Usually lads with SQs stay, unless they put in for a transfer or go for promotion.



    The parachute regiment keeps blokes in the same section for years and years. Some argue that is a better system.
     
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    Steeplejackb New Member

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    @ThreadpigeonsAlpha yeah that all makes sense mate cheers for the reply.

    As far as officers drafts go, I have heard that your initial troop command is likely to be your last. Specialisation dependant, i.e HW officers to FSG's, what sort of positions might you take up on subsequent drafts?

    Company 2ic springs to mind but not much else.
     
  8. Chelonian

    Chelonian Moderator

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    I'm years out of date but back in the day if one resisted promotion (careful choice of words) one could certainly remain within the same battalion for a career. JNCOs would be shipped out to train Recruits and SNCOs were much more mobile across the regiment.

    It was a very different environment back in the 1970s though. The intensity of Op Banner meant that opportunities often arose for junior blokes to get stuck into operational stuff out on the ground.
     
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    The guide Royal Marines Commando

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    Staff roles (i,e working in a HQ , plans job,s / co-ordination , Tri service liason roles , Training roles , 2 I/C of various formations of company/ sqn,s & so on.
     
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    Steeplejackb New Member

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    @The guide thanks, I'm torn between officer and other rank, but am progressing with the officer route on the basis that I may get to the POC stage and get a PRMC pass instead. Hopefully as i progress through the application stages I will gain a better understanding of the roles and make a decision.