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Ectopic heart beat / Capital Medicals

Discussion in 'Common Training Injuries' started by Soap_TNDO, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. Soap_TNDO

    Soap_TNDO New Member

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    Good evening everyone,

    I recently did a vague post on this but having recently contacted Capita (the medical recruitment 3rd party) and had no joy, I was hoping I may be able to get some assistance on here.

    At a young age I was told i had an ectopic heart beat (irregular heart rhythm due to a premature heartbeat) but it was of no concern to the consultant specialist and I could go about my day-to-day life, provided I had no issues. I was also told it was something I should grow out of.

    Years later, I have been symptom free and 'assume' I have grown out of it.

    I contacted my careers office to ask if they could find out how it would be treated but it seemed that because it is a medical query, they are in no position to advise. I was then give then number to contact Capita, who I spoke to and then was asked to email my query so that a nurse can review and get back to me. I emailed and then had a response telling me they cannot help with my question and I will have to wait until my medical (useless...).

    I am currently giving 110% to the preparation of my PRMC/PJFT and evidently because I am this heavily invested, both physically and mentally in joining the RM, it is going to be a huge set back to find out at medical stage that I could potentially be barred, because of this asymptomatic condition on my records (if this is the case - as I know they are strict when it comes to cardiovascular/heart matters).

    Could anyone provide any advice on how I could pre-empt this or point me in the direction of someone that may be able to give me some 'unofficial' advice or opinion.

    Thanks in advance.

    Best,
    Soap.
     
  2. Ninja_Stoker

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    About 10% of the population have heart murmours.

    Best way forward is to submit a complete copy of your medical history relating to the condition...together with a very recent ECG and post it with your completed medical questionnaire.

    It could save you weeks/months of pointless delays.
     
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  3. sharpe

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    If memory serves me the 1st professional athlete diagnosed this was a footballer back in the early 70’s and he played for years at the highest level. I wouldn’t be too dispirited
     
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  4. Soap_TNDO

    Soap_TNDO New Member

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    Thanks Ninja.

    I think an ectopic beat and a murmur at different things but I may be wrong, was diagnosed at a young age so have never been to interested in the fundamentals/research as it has never hindered me.

    Some sound advice there anyhow, I’m still very early on in the process so should have time to collate all info in enough time for the medical questionnaire.

    On a side note, from submission of application, how long should it take to hear back?
     
  5. Fluffy

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    Not sure if this helps but when my son had to request all info about a knee operation he’d had we were told 21 days from submission of request. It took a couple of days longer mind and I did have to make a few phone calls to chase it up.

    Also when you get your info make sure you have a copy of for yourself as when the careers office faxed it to “crapita” they managed to lose a third of it their end luckily the originals were still with careers office so it was refaxed.
    Even then not a smooth ride thankfully it was passed to a naval doctor who passed him to join.
     
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  6. Ninja_Stoker

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    Yep, you are correct. Possibly an ECG is maybe not required in this case - hopefully @The guide or @CHUB! can confirm?
     
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  7. Pez1962

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    My son from a young age due to family history of cardiomyopathy was monitored by a specialist cardiologist. He did not go on to develop the condition he was tested for but his ecgs do show a blip in his readings which seem to be similar to what you have. He has no symptoms and he was told it is a common peculiarity that has not changed since he was a toddler. When attending his medical I dispatched him with all his medical letters we received as parents to say all was clear and details of his cardiologist. He sailed through the medical and the doctor was impressed by the paperwork.
    I would suggest you visit your GP and see if you can get something to show.
    Good luck
     
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  8. Soap_TNDO

    Soap_TNDO New Member

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    Thanks @Ninja_Stoker, hopefully I'll hear from @The guide and/or @CHUB! at some point, when they get the chance.

    @Pez1962 That is really helpful, thank you. Did your son have to have an up to date ecg or could he just go by the historic medical records from a young age?

    Thanks again chaps.
     
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  9. Pez1962

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    No as he was seen yearly they just took the reports as good enough.
    On a personal note I think all recruits should have an ecg/scan as there are so many hidden heart conditions that go undetected.
    We only had our son being monitored because my brother a very fit sportsman died suddenly at his work desk due to an unknown condition. CRY is a charity that promotes this for all teenagers.
     
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  10. Ninja_Stoker

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    Just had a look at the Joint Service Publication (JSP). The latest version states the following:

    Again, only a Service qualified Medical Officer can give definitive guidance in this area, but to give a rough pointer, I'd suggest the production upfront of a recent ECG for scrutiny by the Service Entry Medical Cell could save weeks of angst.
     
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  11. Soap_TNDO

    Soap_TNDO New Member

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    Thanks @Pez1962 , I've contacted my GP to ask for one but he is rather reluctant because I'm asymptomatic. I''m going to have to try and twist his arm now.

    That's really helpful, thanks @Ninja_Stoker. Could you confirm what P2 and P8 means?
     
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    P2=FIT
    P8=UNFIT
     
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  13. Chelonian

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    Consider dropping him a brief letter explaining your career aspiration. Acknowledge that primary health care is of course your GP's priority but that you think a test will support your application. Many GPs have to resist authorising unnecessary tests requested by the 'worried well'.
    A conversation with your GP will be more productive than arm twisting.

    Be aware that an ECG might only give a snapshot of what's happening at that moment. Many people live with randomly occurring heart blips without ever being aware of them
     
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  14. Soap_TNDO

    Soap_TNDO New Member

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    Thanks.

    I have already had an appointment to obtain medical history and I explained my reasoning and aspirations. I then wrote a letter to him requested an ECG and he suggested it wasnt necessary. I have since sent a slightly stronger letter suggesting that it is likely to be requested anyway and it would just save time and delays of my application etc. Currently awaiting a response. Thanks!
     
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  15. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    If your GP is reluctant, then consider a private one. The cost will vary between £75 and £100, which is expensive for such a short test time wise, but you get to choose when and where.

    Alan
     
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