Feedback request - Cost of extra kit during training

Discussion in 'General Royal Marines Joining Chit Chat' started by Ninja_Stoker, Nov 27, 2018.

  1. Ninja_Stoker

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    There is indeed an issue with regard the control of substances hazardous to health. Sounds odd for an organisation that gives you a rifle, ammunition, explosives and daggers to play with in an environment laced with Novichok, radioactive and/or biological toxins, whilst another bloke tries to kill you with a pointy stick, but it is factually correct.

    The reason is not as many may imagine ("bleach tastes yucky and is a bit smelly"), but simply because the cleaning compounds used by the contracted companies have to be chemically compatible. And, so I'm told, bleach actually reacts violently with the dolphin-friendly products used by the cleaning company ...and is therefore not approved.

    Strange, but true.

    Luxury. We just ate cold, wet gravel.
     
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  2. Illustrious

    Illustrious Royal Marines Commando - Moderator

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    *text deleted* off! I've seen you mention living the life of Sir Walter Raleigh on your floating wooden hotels! (ships were still made of wood in your day weren't they?):D

    *I'll get my modern 21st century man made fibre coat.
     
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  3. Ninja_Stoker

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    Fair one, but cruising to war in a climate-controlled warship, lying on a sprung mattress, next to the Jacuzzi and being fed stuffed olives by a dusky butler whilst someone dhobey's your kit for you, isn't always all it's cracked up to be.

    No hang-on. It is. :)
     
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  4. Mattys

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    What’s the procedure for those who go to recruit training straight from school and don’t have family or savings to fund them can they not go until they notify there afco they have the money?
    Personally it seems a lot of money to shell out to do the job I understand it’s required equipment and helps out a lot!
    See there’s a few people on here throwing £400,£500 figures out on stuff that is needed out of there own pocket which I expect a high majority or younger recruits or those with families can’t just openly spend if there not getting there 1st pay for up to 6 weeks.

    Personally I think what ever is required to do the job should be given by the forces and not out of your own pocket unless it’s for your own reasons/convenience.

    I could justify in saying that anything up into say week 16 (phase 1) should be provided to the recruits that is needed to do the job and not out of their own pocket but then once entering into phase 2 it is down to the recruits.

    I just can’t see why recruits should have to pay out so much for a job position that can end after a few weeks if injured as much as you want that green beret at the same time it’s a job and you shouldn’t have to pay for things that are needed to do that job regardless.

    Any idea if it’s just the marines/navy that take this approach of having to buy your own stuff or do the others do the same Army/Air Force?
     
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  5. ERFC

    ERFC Royal Marines Commando

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    We were still on resealable bags all the way up to final ex.... :mad: No jet boils, nothing, expected to work with kit that didn’t actually do its job!
     
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  6. Chelonian

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    And yet the British Empire was built despite kit never being fit for purpose, probably since the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
    Which emphasises that it's all about the man and not about the kit.
     
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  7. boysinbluenew

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    Apparently the lads there had to buy extra bowstrings, Gucci quivers (replacing ones from stores) and nip into town for extra scran as the camp one was not up to it...
     
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  8. Mattys

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    I’d go ahead and say an expenses approach would be a good line to take.

    There should be qualifying grants/perks for each recruit for training.
    Similar in ways to the original advance payment.

    £200 EACH RECRUIT.

    If you get medically injured/discharged(failing) aswell as passing out you shouldn’t have to pay it back.

    If you get kicked out or just decide to leave it should have to be paid back.

    I understand you will more than likely have to pay a lot more than the £200 through training but it will help out a lot of recruits.
     
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  9. Wings

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    You use resealey bags and no jet boils all the way through till you pass out in para depot
     
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  10. JWJ

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    Must be a long 28 weeks
     
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  11. Chelonian

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    Only twenty-two weeks in my day. And that included the Basic Parachute Course.
     
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  12. Ninja_Stoker

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    Surely the BPC only takes five minutes (From stepping out the door to landing)?

    Ten if it's windy.
     
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  13. Chelonian

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    Considerably less than five minutes, hopefully. :eek:
     
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  14. Illustrious

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    30 seconds if you forget to pull.-nailbiting-
     
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  15. Rover

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    From a previous post.

    Things to remember from the ‘school’ days, at Abingdon.

    Should you jump from an aircraft at 1200ft and your parachute deploy fully, you will arrive safely on the ground in around 45 seconds. Dependent on your weight and the wind.:)

    Knowledge Dispels Fear.;)

    Should you jump from an aircraft at 1200ft and your parachute malfunction, you can be in the ground in around 6 seconds.o_O

    A Little Knowledge is a Dangerous Thing.;);)
     
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  16. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando

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    50 seconds tops!

    Alan
     
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  17. Chelonian

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    I'm suddenly feeling much younger. :)
     
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  18. Ninja_Stoker

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    That's barely long enough to enjoy the views :(
     
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  19. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    You shouldn’t need to shell out that much on kit. A lot of it is issued. And a lot of it isn’t better issue than many of us ever got. Even Bivvi pokes are issued now. (You could buy them expensively or chop up a broom handle, for free...)

    Sadly there’s a lot of YouTube wannabe “celebrities” posting crap about joining up and “passing” recruit training and cashing in on lads naivety it now knowing any better.

    I have posted a few videos of one lad (driver in the RLC) who gives crap advice and is obviously being paid to advertise kit. He is an absolute toilet of the first order. And preying on young lads/women and parents that don’t jnow any better.



    You won’t be allowed jetboils (which aren’t all they are hyped to be anyway) or brand new daysacks or anything.

    The only bits of non issue kit allowed, is drybags and a small thermos flask. That’s it.

    It is a shambles that you have total doorknobs badly advising potential recruits for their own financial gain. We all give up our time in this forum to help lads out, and I don’t expect any of you to pay me for it (except maybe a pint in Jollies).

    Stay away from the Kit shop, they prey on Nods and manipulate them into spending a fortune. It’s a crap shop, with crap staff. There’s a few other shops I would rather spend my cash in.
     
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  20. westy

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    I always thought you were only allowed issue kit anyway? Under the assumption you have to know how to use it and the fact that if your Gucci £1000 boots rot in the jungle, pusser won’t replace them anyway