Few Questions!

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Hi guys,

New here, just wanted to say first off - excellent site, everyone seems very level headed and there is an absolute wealth of information on everything I've looked for so far, its helped me immensely. You should be proud of yourselves!

I'm thinking of a career in the forces, I initially considered the Army, as I thought that the Royal Marines were like the SAS and extremely tough to get into (They are, but I had a preconception and never really looked into it much!) But after I discovered I didn't really think the Army was what I wanted, I stumbled on the RM website more by chance than anything and it really really appeals to me! My dream job (Except for being in the SAS of course :saythat: ) was and still is a pilot in the RAF but I don't think I would ever be accepted as I've heard its VERY specific and some things you can get rejected on that you can't even control!

I watched an episode of the Commando: On the Front Line and it was really informative, looks like something I could really go for. Seems they push you to the very edge of your being and challenge you alot and thats what I'm after, and maybe its just me but being able to say you are a Green Beret is just immense! (Not as good as a sandy coloured one though :P) The job looks varied and exciting, but also the career progression looks great!

I would be probably joining as an Officer as I don't want to waste my degree, though this is really the only force that I've seen where the Officers train with the Commandos and actually have to physically train alot harder, strangely that is all a big plus to me too! I also like the idea of specialising after a few years of service, what are the chances that I could specialise as a pilot in the Marines when the chance arrives? Failing that, I'm also interested in being a sniper (Is this possible at Officer level?) and an SBS Officer. I'm very interested in Special Forces but everytime I bring them up I just keep getting laughed at! :( Is there any chance of SAS selection or is that Army only?

I am going to really start getting my fitness up as I am determined to get into one of the forces! Sorry if any of my questions are stupid, I have scoured the forum as I had many more questions and found most of the answers to those!

Cheers guys!
 

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SAS selection is open to all branches of the Military but it is made up mainly of paratroopers, which is expected really but there are still lots of Marines in it!
 

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welcome to the forum mate, and no questions are stupid on here, firstly, yes royal marines can go into the sas, but they choose SBS for obvious reasons, you may also choose to be a sniper at officer level, im sorry but thats the most i can give you at the moment, but more people will respond with alot more information than me, so hold around for a little while and you will find your answer then :D
 

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Regarding piloting, i know you can specialize as a pilot at Officer level but i'm pretty sure thats just helicopter piloting? I'm not too sure.
 

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Woody is correct. However, sometimes, people can go on to be selected to fly Fast Jets, but this is VERY rare. I think there are only about 2, possibly 3 RM Officers flying Fast Jets now.
 

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Welcome to the site, glad it's been of use.

Some good answers given already, but do feel free to ask any further specifics as required.
 

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Welcome to the site, glad it's been of use.

Some good answers given already, but do feel free to ask any further specifics as required.

Cheers.

Thanks to all of you, some good information there, expected to get laughed at in all honesty! Glad the SAS is open to me, but I looked into the SBS abit more and it is fairly appealing. I'm aware that it takes a really REALLY special type of person to be in either though!

Glad its fairly open in regards to career progression, I think I'm definitely going to join the Marines when the time comes (Got a long wait though :() I am not too fussed about fast jet piloting, I am really tilting more towards helicopters at the mo (No pun intended), and I have a friend in the RAF who gets taken up on test flights in the jets so theres always the chance to have a ridealong to indulge in my WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE side hehe.

I wanted to have loads of questions to ask but they have all been answered fully in other threads so I'm abit stuck!

If anything comes to mind I will ask though, what sort of things do you all do in the Marines?
 

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As far as I'm aware, not many of us are acutely in the Marines yet! There are some, but most of us are working towards POC/AIB or PJFT etc.

However Ninja Stroker, arguably the wise-est of the lot of us! is involved in Recruiting for the Marines, if my memory serves me well.

Ross.
 

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As far as I'm aware, not many of us are acutely in the Marines yet! There are some, but most of us are working towards POC/AIB or PJFT etc.

However Ninja Stroker, arguably the wise-est of the lot of us! is involved in Recruiting for the Marines, if my memory serves me well.

Ross.

Don't forget St Preece who is ex, and there is his books. There are a few in RT from the forum but only get to come on every so often as you already know.
Well i like it how you have got your career/life planned as you wish it to go, aiming high is good, when i leave i really have got my sights set on been a Bodyguard forgot what the proper name is for them, but pay is pretty good, and military backrounds are very good shame i can't speak a foreign language.
 

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Cheers fellas.

Yeah I have it fairly planned, I do like to plan ahead! No idea what I'll do after the Marines though, I think I'll play that by ear. May stay on in an admin job if they will let me.

Does anyone know what starting pay for an Officer with a degree is? I heard it was around 28k?

How fast do you move up ranks? Is it one every few years?

:D
 

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I'm pretty sure you get a promotion after 2 years - after completing training.
 

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Ok, cheers.

Will I be able to learn to drive in the Royal Marines? I only have a motorcycle licence at the moment and wouldn't want to spend my leave learning how to drive! Though if I have to I will.

My mind is pretty much made up now that I will be joining (Or at least trying to join) the Royal Marines :-D
 

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welcome to the forum mate, and no questions are stupid on here, firstly, yes royal marines can go into the sas, but they choose SBS for obvious reasons, you may also choose to be a sniper at officer level, im sorry but thats the most i can give you at the moment, but more people will respond with alot more information than me, so hold around for a little while and you will find your answer then :D


I was wondering, can you be a sniper at Commando entry aswell once you specialise, becuase thats something i really want to do, im sure you can but just wanted to double check :D...
 

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As far as i know they pick people with experience, as the courses are tough and selective. They are over booked just like the para courses!! They want you to have exceptional soldering skills (cam and con Etc.) and to be level headed and fairly intelligent and intuitive.

There is a program on youtube!! but i cant find it ??

I have talked to a sniper and they are just amazing soldiers!
We had an observation stance at lympstone and there was a sniper sitting barely 5 feet in front of us. Out of 12 people, only two of us saw him!!
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Haha, good story!

I would love to be a sniper no doubt, rather be on the end of that side of the scope than the other! Though I saw a video on Youtube where a sniper was shooting at Royal Marines and he was missing, they didn't even seem to panic!
 

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Does anyone know what starting pay for an Officer with a degree is? I heard it was around 28k?

How fast do you move up ranks? Is it one every few years?

:D


Just to clarify Officer Seniority upon joining:

From 1 April 2007 a sliding scale of seniority based on Educational Qualifications was introduced. This scale is designed to reflect the more varied routes to a similar standard of qualification and is designed to widen the spread of applicants to the Naval Service. A summary of the scale is as follows:

Masters Degree or Equivalent Antedated Seniority 3.5 yrs
Graduate or equivalent 3 yrs
Foundation Degree or equivalent HNC or Equivalent 1 yr
Basic Entrant- GCSEs, GNVQ and A levels NIL

PAY OF NEW ENTRANTS

The introduction of JPA in November 2006 enabled the pay of new officer entrants to be harmonised across all 3 Armed Forces bringing the RN pay system into line with the Army and Royal Air Force. The main difference in the pay system is that non graduates will enter on a lower starting salary than graduates until they complete their initial officer training. From 1 April 2007 all non graduates join on OF1 Level 1 - £14349 pa until moving to OF1 Level 5 - £22680 on completing Initial Officer Training (on leaving CTC Lympstone). They will then progress through the pay range by annual increments. On promotion to Second Lieutenant they move to OF1 Level 6 - £27260.

Graduates join on OF1 Level 7 – £27981 depending on qualifications and then progress through the pay range by annual increments.
 

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my afco officer said to me all Recruits once they pass out will be taught to drive a car and HGV's as well, So thats cool learning to drive a car and a truck! whooo *text deleted*
 

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