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Discussion in 'Jollies Bar' started by northmonkeySW, Aug 24, 2019.

  1. northmonkeySW

    northmonkeySW Member

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    Hello, thought there would be a number of people on this forum with good experience. I'm moving to a cold and mountainous part of the world near the arctic circle to work as a mountain guide, and I'm trying to decide what gear to get.

    I'll be needing B2 boots as a minimum (crampon compatible), and a full set of gear for work. I've previously used Rab previously but I'm having a look at Arcteryx - is it worth the extra money or not really?

    Any opinions or useful recommendations would be appreciated.
     
  2. Illustrious

    Illustrious Royal Marines Commando - Moderator

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    Arcteryx is very good kit, however it is very expensive.

    As for boots, Scarpa or La Sportiva have always been my go to for a serious mountain boot, have a look at their models and see what fits your budget and fancy.

    Kit wise, what temperature range are you going to be working in, as a coastal mountain range will often have a markedly different temperature to a mountain range deep inland.

    As much detail as you can provide will have people to advise.

    *I will caveat this that I am not an ML, (I've still got my sensibilities) but I do have 4 Norway's under my belt using both pussers kit and my own private purchase.
     
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  3. Chelonian

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    I definitely endorse the recommendation by @Illustrious about Scarpa boots. Top quality.

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    Once you've established the best size take a squiz at eBay. People sometimes buy mountain boots, then realise that they are overkill for a hike on the South Downs and resell them almost as new.

    My tip is to keep your receipts for any purchases and check with your employer and HMRC about tax relief for workwear kit.
     
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  4. Boplicity

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    Thought I would piggy back on this if that's okay? Going to eastern Europe this winter and wondering if anyone has a good cold weather jacket recommendation. Looking for something rugged yet "normal" looking if that makes sense, without throwing 600 notes at it?
     
  5. northmonkeySW

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    It'll be getting down to an average of around -5 in Jan/Feb, with -2 and -7 as the average high and low, so gear that is capable of dealing with that would be ideal.

    Will have a look at Scarpa boots.
     
  6. Illustrious

    Illustrious Royal Marines Commando - Moderator

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    Oh, I thought you were going somewhere cold!
     
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  7. The guide

    The guide Ex RAF, Ex Royal Marines, now RN.! go figure

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    Keela make good gear and the price is reasonable , the reason is they manufacture Gortex that other such as NF / Rab / and so on, buy from them then brand up to their specs where as Keela keep their stuff simple but functional, used to use it while serving on RAF Mountain Rescue team and it does a good job as "it works" and is hard wearing , less prone to damage and not loads of zips / flaps and so on. As for boot good leather ones are fine at the temperatures you mention if much colder plastics such as Asolo might well worth be consideration.
     
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    To be honest they seem to all or a lot of it be the same thing just different brand names.

    Arc’teryx really annoy me, it’s good kit. But for that price tag, it’s mediocre. I only ever buy Arc’teryx second hand on fleabay as it seems to be a much fairer price.

    I love a good buffalo jacket or a montane extreme smock. But it’s not your usual layering gear.

    Paramo is alright but again very expensive and would rather get it second hand.

    Keela is/was uk based and is contracted to the police and emergency services.

    I can’t stand Northface anymore as it seems to be more of a fashion brand.
     
  10. ave!

    ave! Royal Marines Commando

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    I can also mega endorse keela , I use one of their jackets as warmers and a separate one for waterproof.
     
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    Keep eyes on eBay you can sometimes get a good deal.

    Montane do a good smock similar to buffalo if your into that. I love the montane stuff.

    Mammut have some good kit too.

    A rab neutrino jacket might be what your looking for? Or one of the lighter ones so you can layer up or down.
     
  12. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    To be honest, that’s not low enough to worry about getting mega specialist gear.

    Look at a good set of baselayers, I love the rab merino wool stuff.
    I have an old hellyhansen top but they seem to have fallen foul of the hipster/fashion brigade.

    Get Good midlayer, and a good jacket.

    I love the montane extreme smock but it’s not a layered system so it all depends what your into and what your doing.
     
  13. Chelonian

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    For layering, take a squiz at eBay for 1980's vintage Rohan kit. Tightly woven, light polycotton windproofs which pack down to nothing. Vintage colours but top quality construction using the best Swiss RiRi zippers. Not to be confused with the inferior current Rohan brand.
     
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  14. Illustrious

    Illustrious Royal Marines Commando - Moderator

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    @Chelonian you'll be recommending puttees next! :D
     
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  15. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    FFS! I still have nightmares about those poxy things!

    Alan
     
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  16. Jack of no trades

    Jack of no trades Royal Marines Commando

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    Second the Keela recommend, easily the best waterproof I've worn
     
  17. Chelonian

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    On the topic of puttees the ankle version was useless as alluded to by @Caversham
    But I'm tempted to get myself some Great War 'below the knee' puttees to use on horseback. Excellent protection against ticks and far superior to field boots. Modelled below with Boots DMS.

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  18. Illustrious

    Illustrious Royal Marines Commando - Moderator

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    All your own I presume? :D

    On a serious note, I am forever glad we dont wear that kit any longer, those who hate change would have us in yellow tunics and red trousers if they could get away with it!
     
  19. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    I'm not sure when the kit started to change for the better, but it had to be somewhere around the mid eighties. Perhaps the biggest catalyst was the FI war in 1982, when guys were taking boots from dead Argentinians, purely because they were better quality than the DMS ones and many were going down with trench foot. Added to this was the 58 pattern webbing, complete with First World War gas capes that doubled up with another to make a bivvy. All of it was honking.

    The only good bits that I can recall were some of the weapons, which included the SLR, GPMG and 66 rocket launcher, the rest were gash.

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  20. Chelonian

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    Nah, if it were mine the puttees would have been properly wrapped so as not to appear like Nora Batty's stockings. :)

    Some of it was ancient. My old pa came up to Airborne Force's Day at Aldershot in 1978. He was greatly amused by the weapons on display as many of them had been in service during the 1940s:

    L2 LMG = Bren gun
    L42 Sniper = Lee Enfield
    Browning Hi-power = 1935
    Two inch mortar = 1937
     
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