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Going onto Swimmer Canoeist

Discussion in 'General Royal Marines Joining Chit Chat' started by The Parang Gardener, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. The Parang Gardener

    The Parang Gardener New Member

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    I understand how tough RT is and right now that'll be my priority - there's a reason it's one of the toughest NATO selections! But 90% of every SBS (or SAS) soldiers these days must have had dreams of SF when they were 16/17 and that's the reason they applied, so being one of those teens with an SF goal, I'm just wondering what the best route from GD Marine to Swimmer Canoeist would be?

    Assuming I manage to pass RT, and as long as these places are available at these times, would a good route be to go:

    -GD for 12-18 months
    -FPGRM or Recce Troop for 12-18 months
    -SFSG for 12 months (it's in 12-month cycles)
    -UKSF selection

    Or would there be a better alternative, e.g. Mountain Leader after recce troop, etc?
     
  2. JMW123

    JMW123 New Member

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    I always thought that you get selected for it :S
     
  3. RossH

    RossH New Member

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    Nope, you choose to go for the Swimmer Canoeist specialization just like any other one.
     
  4. Illustrious

    Illustrious Royal Marines Commando - Moderator

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    Get a tour under your belt, I was told a dit of a lad who passed out, went straight to Afghan then selection after and was badged within 20 months of passing out, not sure how true it is but it'd be nice. You wont get 12-18 months as a GD grav anymore. I was pinged at 8 months, most are now pinged by 12. The GD branch is being phased out. If you want SF, go Recce Operator, it's as close as GD as you'll really get in regards to soldiering skills.
     
  5. R

    R Well-Known Member

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    What was your ping? Did you leave jpa preferences blank? Dreading getting the ping finger for sigs!
     
  6. RMcDonagh

    RMcDonagh New Member

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    In essence, there is no "easy" route to SF. It doesn't matter what route you take as after 2 years of service you can apply, whether you're a Chef or a ML. Really the smartest option is at Illustrious put it, get a tour done and try go RO.

    Going SFSG first would be the smartest of ideas, you'll gain a real insight into what being SF's means and the level of fitness / strength you'll really require.
     
  7. R

    R Well-Known Member

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    Its hard to get into SFSG they only draw people from FPG and selection is very competitive.
     
  8. C

    C Guest

    According to a recent article in the G&L you can also go SFSG through a branch sponsor, dependent on your specialisation. You only have to go through FPG selection if you're GD.
     
  9. Illustrious

    Illustrious Royal Marines Commando - Moderator

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    I've been pinged as a driver. I was actually kind of given a choice. I was told "these are your options, pick two that you would prefer most" I put sigs & drives, a week later I was handed a draft order for Leconfield. Amused? Not at all!

    Sigs is not a bad ping, no comms, no bombs & as my section commander always maintained, signallers fly through the comms tests on their juniors.
     
  10. ste preece

    ste preece Former RM

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    I recall a former colleague of mine who went SBS. He was an exceptional guy and was determined to go for SC3 (SBS). His name was Neil Blane. Sadly, Neil was killed in a parachuting accident in the USA some years ago. Its always a pleasure to remember him.

    Royal Marines, H.A.L.O. parachuting accident
    BLAIN, Neil Martin, Corporal, P041362J, killed Friday, 24 June 1994

    He once ran a BFT (1.5 miles) in 6 minutes and 10 seconds. He was a very exceptional guy and his pace was World Class pace.

    Neil was an exceptional, marine. When he wasn't working he was always in PT kit. We were all mega fit, but neil was always that much fitter. If you did 40 burpees, he did 45 in the same time. If you did 50 pressups, he did 55 in the same time etc etc.

    He came to see me, near the end of my career when I had landed myself in a spot of bother!! He was, as always, very supportive and very positive too.

    He was also a good boxer, fearless with an up at at em approach to life.

    A great lad, whose tragic passing was a loss to the Royal Marines, the SBS and the UK, undoubtedly.

    This is Neil's memorial. a fitting tribute to an exceptional Marine:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/worthingwanderer/5048030313/

    Steve

    Incidently: Neils memorial is on the beach at West Bexington.
     
  11. RossH

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    The rest of us can only dream of achieving what he did.

    I'm told that in the Marines fallen soldiers are never ever forgotten, because of the cops being a "family", i hope this rings true.

    RIP Niel Martin Blane.

    Ross.
     
  12. Illustrious

    Illustrious Royal Marines Commando - Moderator

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    It's true, not sure about "cops" being a family though ;)

    However, the Corp' is a big family, in the "Les Lounge" there are memorials to fallen members of Alpha Coy, the bar itself is a memorial. No one is forgotten.
     
  13. RossH

    RossH New Member

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    Frogvie my poor Garmama. :nuts:

    Why do you think the Royal Marines are viewed as a family, but the Army not so much?
     
  14. Kentish

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    Probably because of their size, history, ethos and the hardships each RM has been through.

    The size of the Army is about 100,000, the size of the RM is about 7-6000. Of course you probably shouldn't compare the whole of the Army to the RM, but that's another debate. I'm sure a serving member will be better informed on why there's a family feeling.
     
  15. Illustrious

    Illustrious Royal Marines Commando - Moderator

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    Kentish hit the nail on the head. The Corp' is such a small organisation that you will constantly run into someone you know. Every time I've gone on draft somewhere, I've ran into someone I know and we just pick up our conversations where we left off pretty much.
     
  16. Old Man

    Old Man Ex-Matelot

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    The Army does indeed have the 'family' ethos. Not as 'the Army' but as each regiment.

    With regiments nowadays being mixtures of previous regiments, the ethos and traditions of the old regiments are amalgamated into the new.