Guildford RMAD NOMORE

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So popped into the AFCO today while in the area just to confirm RMAD date and time to learn that RMAD is no longer happening, ever, because none of the lads are trained PTI's in that office. So they pretty much told me to just quickly run my PJFT and they will book me into PRMC.

Is this happening up and down the country or just this one AFCO? Kind of silly if you ask me as the RMAD is a good insight but whatever.
 

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Not heard of a change in national policy with regard RMADs, but am aware there are those who view it as an additional, unnecessary hurdle prior to PRMC.

There's no denying those who undertake an RMAD have a higher success rate but some may claim an unfair advantage.

As the RM Visibility Teams are not PTI's but take PE lessons in schools & colleges, it raises an interesting issue if RMADs are to be withdrawn nationally at a time when recruiting Royal Marines in sufficient numbers may soon be an issue.
 

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Not heard of a change in national policy with regard RMADs, but am aware there are those who view it as an additional, unnecessary hurdle prior to PRMC.

There's no denying those who undertake an RMAD have a higher success rate but some may claim an unfair advantage.

As the RM Visibility Teams are not PTI's but take PE lessons in schools & colleges, it raises an interesting issue if RMADs are to be withdrawn nationally at a time when recruiting Royal Marines in sufficient numbers may soon be an issue.
Ninja, why may recruiting sufficient recruits soon be an issue??
 

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In a word: Money.

The economy saw a decrease in jobs availability both in the Armed Forces & in the civilian workplace over the last 3 years. The pending SDSR averted Other Ranks redundancies by reducing recruit numbers & narrowing the criteria for entry - reducing the likehood of training fails, thereby saving money.

Now that UK flagged ships have been given the go-ahead to carry armed contractor to counter the anti-piracy threat (rather than deploy expensive service personnel in that role), short-term high wages entice qualified service personnel (who have a 2 year pay freeze if earning over ?20k).

Previously the number of RM applicants exceeded available jobs because of the national economic crisis, now the recruiting pool is diminished & the outflow of trained ranks is nudging ahead of the numbers of successful applicants.
 

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Ninja, does this mean joining criteria will be eased-up a bit or more Recruit Troops run, maybe weekly rather than bi-weekly?

And on a more trivial issue, a whole new series of awesome TV/cinema adverts :biggrin:
 

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Check out the signature - opinion, not policy.

I'd guess a retention bonus or rejoining bounty would come before any changes.

Recruit Troops cannot increase in frequency due to capacity, but the first indicator of insufficient numbers joining is Recruit Troop cancellations, not increases.

Advertising may well increase, but not for entertainment.
 

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They've just released a new bonus to Cpls/Sgts at ~12yr point of ?15,000. DIN out there somewhere but set eyes upon it about a month ago.
 

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My guess is there is a 'should I stay for the pension or establish a new career' pinch point at 12 years, so the aim is to sway the odds for retention.

The irony of the 5 year retention bonus is that the daily rate of pay for those joining on that scheme was exactly the pay difference reduced over 5 years compared to those who joined before the scheme. The difference was that those that joined on the earlier scheme were paid it daily rather than held to ransom, losing it if they left. Smoke & mirrors.
 

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Son and I were discussing this topic when he was home recently, and he was saying that loss of Specialist Pay was a big factor in why many of his married oppos were staying. They wanted to leave, but just couldn?t afford the loss of money for the 12 months before they left ? they?ve got mortgages, kids etc, so it does work as ?retention pay?.

Said it was hard enough for the single lads, although for him and others who leave at the end of the year, the extra money they will have earned from this tour will off-set the loss of six months SP.
 

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Have to say that the withdrawal of specialist pay when notice is legitimately submitted in accordance with the contract of employment is a bone of contention for many. Sooner or later the MOD will find itself at an employment tribunal.

The advice to those leaving is not to burn any bridges & to ensure the door to re-entry is wedged firmly open because sooner or later some genius will figure out it's cheaper to deploy serving trained ranks on merchant vessels than the inflationary price of the cargo guarded by highly paid former trained ranks who cost even more to replace. It's already costing a fortune in increased fuel prices on the forecounts with a knock-on effect on the prices of goods in the supermarket.

Someone will eventually twig that the security of shipping isn't privately funded after all & replacing trained ranks costs millions too.
 

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Intresting. Thanks for a good insight.

Yeah someone, sometime will twig.
 
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