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HMS Queen Elizabeth Carrier Captain has his position relieved for “misuse” of official car

Discussion in 'General Military & Topical News' started by AngryArgie, May 17, 2019.

  1. rkec

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    I don't think the rules are the specific issue on this one, as you say there is no doubt that he didn't abide by them.

    The question is, are the rules being enforced equally or just against people whose faces don't fit at a certain point in time. That's the bit that I have an issue with.

    The updated story from the RM, comments are always a joy.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...k-captain-Navys-biggest-warship.html#comments
     
  2. Chelonian

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    Assuming that the Royal Navy has a significant fleet of leased vehicles—all of which will have GPS trackers fitted—it will be interesting to learn how many similar issues have recently arisen.
     
  3. Caversham

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    I just wonder how the training teams get on when they RV at the Plume and Doom at Princetown during an Ex? Just saying!

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  4. rkec

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  5. Chelonian

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    Somebody got greedy.

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  7. Chelonian

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    Clearly I missed something in the earliest media reports about this matter. I understood that the CO of HMS Queen Elizabeth had been immediately relieved of command because of allegations. But apparently he was actually 'reassigned' to another post with effect from 31 May 2019 presumably while allegations are investigated. And yet he was instead replaced at short notice yesterday afternoon.

    Obviously the full picture isn't available but the matter appears at a glance to have been clumsily handled.
     
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    Ah yes the Ford Popular, a classic if ever there was - note the close-fitting door panels.

    It will probably come as no surprise to learn I was a Quality Control Toolmaker at Ford Motor Company during the Ford Escort era.

    After Fords stopped naming their vehicles after, erm gentleman's magazines (eg; Escort, Fiesta) the fun went out of the job, so I joined the Navy instead. Thereafter, there was a coincidental improvement in vehicle reliability. I had nothing to do with the engines fitted on the Type 45 Destroyer, before you ask.
     
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    Model T era surely?!
     
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  11. Chelonian

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    Ouch! :)
     
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  12. Ninja_Stoker

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    To be fair, I reckon there's more Model T's kicking about than Ford Populars.

    They built them to last back then. In the 1970s & 80's cars used to be paper-thin sheet steel, anti-corrosion wasn't an option, the sills & wings rusted away, the chrome peeled off in a couple of years.

    Cars were built with newspaper stuffed in the doors so they would clunk rather than clank (like Rollers) and they deliberately put "drainage holes" in doors and wings which let water in. The cars were only built to last 3 years then scrapped.
     
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  13. Chelonian

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    Somewhere there's a pic of me sat on the bonnet of my old pa's matt blue 1957 Ford Popular Mk1. It makes the Pop on the catapult above look modern in comparison.

    On the topic of Ford Escorts; as a youngster I lusted after the Mk2 RS2000. The dog's bollocks in the late 1970s.

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  14. Chelonian

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    A letter in today's i Weekend:

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    I see the RN have let it be known that they had given multiple specific warnings to the individual and they had been ignored. If they have then it's hard to have sympathy regardless of past practices.
     
  17. Chelonian

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    Surely not? Struggling to understand why the Royal Navy (or any other employer) would do that with a current disciplinary action.

    Meanwhile, plenty of media comment:

    Navy captain Nick Cooke-Priest was allowing wife to use ship's car before he was reported by own crew

    However, his dismissal turned into farce when it was announced that he would still take the helm of the ship to sail from Rosyth to Portsmouth, only for that decision to be quickly reversed by the Royal Navy and the captain flown off the ship.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ing-wife-use-ships-car-emerges-reported-crew/
     
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  18. rkec

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    Must have been because they thought that the PR battle was being lost on this one. Seems to have been badly handled. I can only guess that they never imagined that the story was worth being picked up and published in the national media.
     
  19. Chelonian

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    Possibly. Can't help thinking that the RAF handle these matters better. For example: Officer writes off multi-million pound aircraft resulting in promotion and a commendation for outstanding airmanship. :)
     
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  20. rkec

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    Or one day becoming King :D