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Ulick

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Ok, I have had LES done about 18 months ago, and I was wondering would it have an effect on my joining the RM's?.....do they check for it?
 

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Thanks Grey...does anyone know how indepth the eye test to get in are, will they "poke" around my eyes close enough to see I've had it done, or is it just the eye chart test? :?
 

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Dollond & Aitchison opticians have the nationwide contract to conduct the eye tests & you should be seen by one of their opthalmists.

I'd be surprised if they failed to notice if you have had laser surgery & you will be required to provide evidence of the type of surgery you have had & when, during your medical examination at the AFCO.

Hope that helps & good luck to you.
 

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Yea Im getting my eyes done November 9th myself Ulich. Kinda has me nervous, cause I really want to be a Marine, and Im paying for one of the most expensive Lasik procedures possible. Personally, a friend of mine said there is a good chance they won't notice the lazer eye surgery once the eye heals. However, Im not sure if it's a good idea to hide it from them or not.
 

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With regards medicals, it's a big difference between not volunteering information and lying. Make sure you know exactly which side of the line you are on as it could cause you to be discharged later on.

Nothing to stop you dropping in to the opticians for some informal advice this week. Just ask them their advice but if your concerned about any come backs just don't give them your name.

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mate when i had my eye test a few weeks ago they squirted some dye in to see whether or not i had it done,so i think more than likely they will know whether you have had the procedure done,but im no expert!
 

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danslark said:
mate when i had my eye test a few weeks ago they squirted some dye in to see whether or not i had it done,so i think more than likely they will know whether you have had the procedure done,but im no expert!
Thats me gone then I understand that the RM don't take people with LES.... :cry:

oh well
 

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They do accept you Ulich, just depends on the type you've had. Ninja sent this to me.


"Thank you for your enquiry regarding eyesight corrective laser surgery (corneal refractive surgery) and the relevant Royal Navy Policy. The Naval Service does not endorse the use of laser surgery as a method to gain entry and there is no guarantee that such treatment will improve vision to an acceptable standard.

The Naval Service requires individuals to serve anywhere in the world, in extremes of climate and operational situations, which are remote from primary and secondary care. Therefore, even minor conditions such as the use of correcting lenses can take on much greater significance when even basic support is limited. As a consequence, medical screening is stringent and to a higher standard than might be expected for normal civilian employment.

In general, any defect or weakness of sight will be a bar to entry if these defects render an individual incapable of, or likely to be incapable of performing general duties in the Naval Service. The tri-Service standard for uncorrected visual acuity is right eye 6/60 and left eye> 6/60.

With regard to surgical correction of myopia or hypermetropia, it is acknowledged that the following methods are now considered suitable for entry on an individual case by case basis for non-specialist employment groups and subject to single Service requirements:

(a) Photorefractive Keratectomy (PRK)

(b) Laser Epithelial Keratomileusis (LASEK)

(c) Laser in-situ Keratomileusis

(d) Intrastromal Corneal Rings (ICRs), otherwise known as Intrastromal
Segments (ICS).

Entry will not be considered for Radical Keratotomy (RK), or Astigmatic Keratotomy (AK), or any other form of incisional refractive surgery, other than those procedures listed above. All invasive intraocular surgical procedures will remain a bar to entry.






In order to be considered a candidate must fulfil the following criteria and provide documentary evidence to support that:

(a) The pre-operative refractive error was not more than +6.00 or 6.00 dioptre (estimated spherical equivalent) in either eye and;

(b) The best spectacle corrected visual acuity is 6/9 or better in each eye and;

(c) At least 12 months have elapsed since the date of the last surgery or enhancement procedure and;

(d) There have been no significant visual side effects secondary to the surgery affecting daily activities or night vision and;

(e) Refraction is stable; as defined by two refractions performed on each eye at least 6 months apart, with no more than 0.50 dioptre difference in the spherical equivalent in either eye.

(f) Specialist visual function testing has been carried out with satisfactory results at least 12 months following surgery, including assessment of refraction, symmetry of visual acuity, high and low contrast sensitivity (with and without glare sources) or contrast acuity analysis, astigmatism, glare, corneal clarity, masked mild hypermetropia and night vision.

An applicant who has undergone eyesight corrective laser surgery must supply evidence of the above and may be subject to evaluation by a Service Ophthalmic Consultant. Each case is considered on an individual basis and if all the criteria are met it may be possible to consider an application to enter the Naval Service.

Decisions regarding any kind of ophthalmic surgery should be discussed with an Ophthalmic Consultant. This letter should be taken to ophthalmic consultations where eyesight corrective laser surgery is to be discussed with a view to achieving the necessary eyesight standards for entry.

It is hoped this information is helpful and wish you all the best for the future."
 

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If the RM's do take people with LES, knowing my luck I probably am outside some of the allowed parameters :roll: , I'll ring up Palace barracks and talk to someone...it would be a shame though if having great eyesite and being allowed in I was automatially barred from some jobs,

you can't get reclassified once your in to open up those jobs can you? :?
 

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Not that I know of, but Im no expert. Im afraid of the fact that, you need to have a certain eye sight even before lazer surgury to get in. I think thats kind of dumb, considering, if you have 20/20 vision after the surgery, what does it matter what you had before it. I have a very high prescription glasses right now, so need to talk to my surgeon before the LES to make sure I can still qualify for the RM's
 

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Agreed, in the US they let fighter pilots and SF guys get LES.... :roll: , they should just have the year long wait and then get you to sign a waiver against liability because of the procedure you had.
 

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The reason that the RN/RM insists that your eyesight must be within the minimum acceptable standards before surgery is because in terms of surgical procedures, it is regarded as a relatively recent procedure.

That being the case, the long term effects are not currently recorded in sufficient acceptable quantity of patients' data of those having undergone these types of surgery, to establish without reasonable doubt that the results are permanent or temporary.

As I'm not an expert in laser surgery, I couldn't possibly cast judgement in this reason.

Hope that helps guys.
 

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Ninja_Stoker said:
The reason that the RN/RM insists that your eyesight must be within the minimum acceptable standards before surgery is because in terms of surgical procedures, it is regarded as a relatively recent procedure.

That being the case, the long term effects are not currently recorded in sufficient acceptable quantity of patients' data of those having undergone these types of surgery, to establish without reasonable doubt that the results are permanent or temporary.

As I'm not an expert in laser surgery, I couldn't possibly cast judgement in this reason.

Hope that helps guys.
Is there any sign in the RN/RM's that it may become more accepted?

I think my eyesight was ok, I had an eyesight test done here for the DF that I passed
 

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had my interview with my careers liason officer on monday. my colour perception has risen as a slight concern. i have to go down to portsmouth to get my eyes tested by the navy there, so my career plan i shanging in the fate of that test now!!
 

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I heard the the USA Military pays for its recruits for the surgery if they need it.
 

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Wish our MOD could do that, but then I guess it shows the difference between both nations approach to recruting and retention
 

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Well a RM on another site said they don't take guys with LES, so looks like my dreams done, good luck to all you lads, kick ass and if you make it, wear the Beret well :wink:


see you around sometime
 

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They do Ulick. He might just be an old timer. I have talked to other RM's, that have trained with lads WITH the surgury. Even Ninja_Stoker says they accept them, it's right on the website. Don't give up that easy mate.
 
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