Looking for advice

Discussion in 'General Royal Marines Joining Chit Chat' started by FuriousD, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. FuriousD

    FuriousD New Member

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    Hi all,

    I'm looking for a little bit of advice. I was 32 in January and currently have an application in for Warfare Specialist Submariner. I passed my psychometric test and have my interview next week.

    I always wanted to join the Marines and this was my number 1 option though I realised that with my age it would take a minor miracle for everything to go through and get to RT by September (constant complaints about medical delays made up my mind on that).

    After my psychometric test I mentioned again to my AFCO officer about the Marines to be told I was too old, it was a young mans game and I scored too highly, too clever for the Marines. The more I am told I shouldn't/can't do it the more I want to do it.

    Realistically I know I only have one real shot at this and need to prepare myself properly for this so I can sail through all the physical tests but delays with the medical still make me question if I will get everything sorted in time.

    Sorry for the massive post, any advice people?

    I will also add I have a wife and 3 children who support my decision either way, regardless of what I do.
     
  2. Hyperhippo

    Hyperhippo Active Member

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    Do it.

    Your only going to know if there will be a delay at the medical stage only when you reach the medical stage, and you won’t reach it unless you apply for the RM. Even if there is and it takes you over the age cutoff at least you tried and you can crack on with the RN, but that’s not a definate yet you might pass everything first time.

    Where there is a will, there is a way.
     
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  3. Chelonian

    Chelonian Well-Known Member

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    You've exceeded the age limit for RM Young Officer entry by more than a country mile so I'll assume that you're considering Other Rank.
    I can't recall if one must start Royal Marines RT before one's 32nd birthday or before one's 33rd birthday. Someone here will give you the definitive answer. Best of luck.
     
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  4. westy

    westy Active Member

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    Mate, I’m 31, 32 in November and I feel exactly the same!!

    My thoughts are, I don’t know if I could ever possibly be fit enough and that’s a massive nagging doubt to me!!

    If not, I may see you at Raleigh in the future as I’ve also applied for WS and I also have a medical problem that I’m awaiting the Chief Medical Officers decision!!
     
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  5. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    Firstly you have to realise that recruiters aren’t there to fulfil your needs, but the Military’s. That’s not a dig at recruiters, it’s just their job.

    You scored highly in the test doesn’t mean anything, I scored high on mine too, but it just means you have a good attitude towards certain things. It just gives you more options.

    He is right it’s a young mans game but it’s not impossible and it’s been done before.
    It depends how much you want it and how hard you work for it. What is your phys like?
    There are inherent disadvantages to starting RT older, but there’s a lot of advantages and a lot of life experience to draw on.

    It’s a tough choice. And being older with responsibilities takes its toll. It’s all fine and well us telling you to jump, but it’s you that has to land it, not us. Have you considered RMR?
     
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  6. CHUB!

    CHUB! Careers Adviser

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    You need to be in the day before your 33rd birthday. I have a candidate who has been delayed for a year with medical issues/appeal etc. He is now a year away from his 33rd birthday but is an absolute joy to assist in the process. Remember just like you all careers advisers are humans and as we all know can be mixed bag with varying degrees of experience. In my experience once the seed is sewn it is very hard to shake that drive towards the Holy Grail. Keep at it and never let anyone tell you otherwise, a Royal Marine certainly wouldn't. If you want some advice feel free to PM myself or Ninja.
    :)
     
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  7. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    My heart always sinks if ever I hear anybody suggests anyone is "too clever" or "too old" to do a particular job despite meeting the entry criteria.

    Much as I would not like to contradict a fellow careers adviser, WS(SSM) or WS(TSM) is not 'top of the shop' with regard recruit test scores for ratings entry.

    Besides, the recruit test is not an IQ test, all it does is check the individual has the academic capacity to comple training in a given role. A high score simply means an increase in roles available. The choice of role is that of the individual, not the careers adviser. The careers adviser is obliged to tell you what jobs are available to you.

    It would be interesting to learn the source branch of your careers adviser as people naturally tend to recruit to their source branch.

    I know of a Royal Marine Other Rank with a PhD in particle physics, who worked on the Hadron Collider at CERN. We've had as many as 17 graduates in an Other Rank recruit troop.

    Conversely, those over age 30 have half the success rate in Recruit Training as those aged 19-23.

    If you need to hold onto something heavy on a windy day or are top end on BMI, maybe your careers adviser was just being polite.

    As long as you are pretty much there on the phys and as lean and fast as a racing whippet in a bonio famine, bounce rather than snap when you fall, but weigh confortably over 65kgs, go for it!
     
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  8. FuriousD

    FuriousD New Member

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    Thank you all for your advice. I have decided I have nothing to lose in giving it a shot and so have emailed my AFCO to query changing my application. It is something I need to go for and is more evident as each day goes by. My interview is on Monday so hopefully it is not too much of an inconvenience for them.

    As far as phys goes I am not yet hitting top scores which is what I am aiming for but am being put through my paces through a good friend who is a former Officer in RM and also Surgeon Commander in the Navy so can't think of anyone better to whip me into perfect shape. Knowing my advanced age I plan to be as fit as possible.

    Source branch of my careers adviser is from the warfare branch, though not submarines.
     
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  9. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    Interesting. Royal Marines require a minimum score in Mechanical Comprehension, Warfare Specialists do not.
     
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  10. FuriousD

    FuriousD New Member

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    As an update, I was interviewed yesterday for the Royal Marine post and passed. Onto thetmedical stage now, all going well andamoving quite quickly.

    I did have a chat with my careers advisor, he is fantastic I must say. He does think I would be better suited to tsm due to my age and doesn't think I will make it into the Marines, due to my age, and as he says, you need to be a bit mental to join. He is looking forward to me proving him wrong though.
     
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  11. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    Welcome to the party :)

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    Good luck.
     
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