Lure of the green lid

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Few years back when I was 16 and leaving school I nearly joined the RM. Got talked out of it by people who said that I won't learn anything useful for civilian life and would wreck my body and mind in the process of training and culture.

But I'm nearly 23 and still *text deleted* do it. Been looking at alternatives in the armed forces - Int Corps and Paras in the army - but something about the Royal Marine attitude and ethos, at least in how it's advertised to potential recruits, has got me by the balls.

Kind of cautious about going in on a gut feeling so still looking around to make sure it's what I'm really after but I have an inkling it won't be long.
 

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Do what you beleave in and what you *text deleted* make a career out of wether it’s the army/paras/marines only you can make that decision.

Go to your nearest afco and get some leaflets , books eg and have a chat with the advisors even tho what ever military side there on they will convince you to go thst route I’m sure.

Nothing about your age dude I’m 29 this year and it’s all I’ve ever wanted so it’s in your head and go for it it’s its what you want to do don’t think about what others want.
 

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Got talked out of it by people who said that I won't learn anything useful for civilian life and would wreck my body and mind in the process of training and culture.
Three words:
They.Were.Wrong.

Let no one stop you.
 

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Could potentially join the army and try doing the AACC? I'm a bit torn between the RM and the Int corps too at the moment. I suppose that way you might get the best of both worlds, and you've got a job to fall back on if you're unsuccesful in completing commando training. Or even make two applications and make the decision when you have more information?
 

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AACC might make a commando but not a Royal Marine :)

But, yes, that is an option. There's no reason stopping me being attached to infantry units if I'm fit and keen with the Int Corps as the home unit. I'm not really looking to collect badges though. The issue is over where I'd want to be for the majority of my career.

I actually joined the Army already (under the Int Corps cap badge, after specialist selection, etc.). Got a week into Phase I training and hit my head *text deleted*. Didn't even get to touch a rifle! Was put on the army ward for a while then sent home to nurse post-concussion syndrome and see specialists to figure out if the fall was because of a slip/trip or something more sinister. After months of not training and being sick, finally got the okay to train again with a backtroop but at the medical I was then underweight, not to mention I knew I had lost a serious amount of fitness. Medically discharged with 2 year wait period to rejoin.

So I'm fit again (8.09 1.5miler, sub-20 3miler, 600lb deadlift) and in the summer can reapply if I want. The question popped into my head like it did when I first started looking into service in the Armed Forces though-- It's like an itch that needs scratching: Royal Marines?
 

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It sounds like you want to join the corps. I would say Go for it. You could join the paras, but they are a similar beast, so why not join the corps? You could Do the AACC, with another regiment or something. I was like you and honestly considered the same but i knew in the back of my mind, i could potentially have the commando flash....but it wouldnt say Royal Marine on it. I could potentially have the lid.. but it wouldnt be the globe and laurel on it. that was the deciding factor for me.
 

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Few years back when I was 16 and leaving school I nearly joined the RM. Got talked out of it by people who said that I won't learn anything useful for civilian life and would wreck my body and mind in the process of training and culture.

But I'm nearly 23 and still *text deleted* do it. Been looking at alternatives in the armed forces - Int Corps and Paras in the army - but something about the Royal Marine attitude and ethos, at least in how it's advertised to potential recruits, has got me by the balls.

Kind of cautious about going in on a gut feeling so still looking around to make sure it's what I'm really after but I have an inkling it won't be long.

Mate. People try and project their own sh!t and their own weaknesses on you because they can’t handle things changing, or other people doing well for themselves.

The recruit training is just a glorified way to learn look after yourself and your “home” and your kit. It makes men of boys.

Now, take all that recruitment stuff with a pinch of salt.
Yes, it’s hoofing. Yes, you will travel. Yes, you will make some awesome mates. Yes, you will do some cool sh!t.

BUT.

It’s like every other job, it has it’s quiet patch’s and it’s sh!t times, and sometimes you just have to get on with it. But what gets you through it, is your mindset, the bigger picture, your mates, some rum and a few naked bars.

You work hard and play hard. But it’s not a given, you have to be proactive and keen.

It will always be apart of your life, and no one can ever take it away once you have done it.
 

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Could potentially join the army and try doing the AACC? I'm a bit torn between the RM and the Int corps too at the moment. I suppose that way you might get the best of both worlds, and you've got a job to fall back on if you're unsuccesful in completing commando training. Or even make two applications and make the decision when you have more information?

You could. But it’s very popular, it’s hard to get billets, and it’s got a slow turnover.

It’s not whether you want to do the AACC, it’s wherher the army benefits from you doing the AACC. Don’t beleive the recruitment “bending of the truth”.

Don’t go into RM training with a “backup”. You will use it as a way to convince yourself to give up.
You either do or do not. If you want to take the island, you burn the ships.

There is a Combat Intelligence SQ with the marines, along with a lot of others, but be warned, it’s not always as Gucci as you think.

Have a think, and pick one, then throw yourself 100% at it.
 

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Go RM then go Int as an SQ?
Possible but CI isn't particularly interesting. We got a look at the different intelligence forms used by different services in different roles (RAF and RM in particular) and admittedly I was turned off by those roles. Was going in as an OPMI(L) meaning with linguist training which is possible as a RM but again wouldn't necessarily be what I'm doing for the majority of my career.

Edit: If I were going the Corps route, I'd probably have my eye on ML and recce more than anything. Completely different path which is probably why I'm struggling. I'm a bit of a loon and like hanging out of my arse in the freezing cold and then doing more :D
 

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3 year wait on that at the minute apparently? Unless you get a KB.
What's a KB?

I know it's popular. One of the things that is off-putting about the Corps is that there is a large possibility you might end up doing a SQ you don't want because the Corps comes first. While, for instance, I was able to choose which language I was to study in with the Int Corps even before I started Phase I training. I think it's a difference in the attitude of 'A Royal Marine first' which is fair enough.
 

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What's a KB?

I know it's popular. One of the things that is off-putting about the Corps is that there is a large possibility you might end up doing a SQ you don't want because the Corps comes first. While, for instance, I was able to choose which language I was to study in with the Int Corps even before I started Phase I training. I think it's a difference in the attitude of 'A Royal Marine first' which is fair enough.
Kings Badgeman(best recuit)

Yes I understand your reasoning totally. The Royal Marines Commando typically loves Phys, soldiering and doing things in a soldiering capacity to a very high level. And the high demand SQ's reflect this.

Im not or ever was a RM, but I knew I wanted to be a grunt, and get amongst things, unfortunately the Army has a well versed talent to mislead, and ultimately it didn't pan out for me. Probably a massive amount of naivety on my behalf also too.

It's not all bad however. My son picked a middle of the road SQ, not brilliant, not terrible. Im glad to say he got it after 10 months as a Grav. He's happy enough, and it's definitely what you make it.
 

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What's a KB?

I know it's popular. One of the things that is off-putting about the Corps is that there is a large possibility you might end up doing a SQ you don't want because the Corps comes first. While, for instance, I was able to choose which language I was to study in with the Int Corps even before I started Phase I training. I think it's a difference in the attitude of 'A Royal Marine first' which is fair enough.


Have you been chatting to the Army Recruiters?

The corps comes first, but it’s not always a case of “here’s your SQ suck it”.

You may have to put your name forward for a less popular SQ for a year, but it gets your name on the top of the list for your chosen SQ.
Or you could be a good egg and your CSM bats all the pings onto the company sh!t shields.
Or you could just be lucky and be right time, right place and get your chosen SQ.

You’re spot on though, what’s more important, calling yourself a Royal Marine, or doing a linguist job?
Both is acceptable if it’s what you want to do, and put yourself 100% into it.

You can get yourself on linguist courses after you pass out and at a Unit/on CI, and I am more than certain you could get a language or your choice. I am sure we have some CIs on here though could weigh in?
 

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Could potentially join the army and try doing the AACC? I'm a bit torn between the RM and the Int corps too at the moment. I suppose that way you might get the best of both worlds, and you've got a job to fall back on if you're unsuccesful in completing commando training. Or even make two applications and make the decision when you have more information?
The criteria used to be that you would only get a chance of doing the AACC if you joined a Unit attached to 3 Cdo Bde, such as RA and RE. To my knowledge the Int Corps, whilst they may be attached to a Unit on operations, will not have to complete the All Arms.

If you want a CGB then join the Corps, simple as that.

Alan
 

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Lost count of the times I've heard my Army colleagues try to entice potential recruits with the offer of military & academic qualifications that appeal to those who go into the AFCO with a shopping list from the military equivalent of the "Tesco Finest" range of available jobs.

Civilian academic qualifications are available equally to ALL three services.

Military qualifications are dependent on the actual job. There's no such thing as an SBS Fast Jet Commando dog-handler Sniper Pilot Diver, but if there was, there would be a queue up & down the High Street leading to the AFCO.

The only assured way, for example, of becoming a Royal Marines Commando Officer is by joining as a Royal Marines Commando Officer.

Yes, there are Royal Marines Commando Officer Fast Jet Pilots who may have done stint with Special Forces but they number about two in the last ten years, drawn from a talent pool of 1400 other eligible officers over that period. Funnily enough one of them gave me a hard time for suggesting the odds of achieving Fast Jet Pilot are remote as a Royal Marine...neglecting to remember that whilst 60% of trained rank Royal Marines Commandos used this forum before joining (maybe more), fewer than 10% of forum users become a trained rank Royal Marines Commando.

Likewise, there are Surgeons who are Commando qualified but they will never be employed on the ground as a Commando.

As a careers adviser the tip is to identify and gain the job you want most, then worry about the bells & whistles as the opportunity arises.

Never say never, aim high, reach for the stars & any other S Club Se7en song, but remember: One step at a time.
 

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Have to admit despite being in a pretty stable interesting job I’m still getting lured by the thought of joining the RM. However I’m bonded for 3 years before I make an insane decision!
 
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