Medic Specialisation-does it exist?

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Hi there fellas, as the title says just wanted to know about if a medic specialisation role exists to General Duties Marines. Or are all the guys at a unit just trained in advanced first aid anyway? Either way, I've got no clue so any insight would be great.

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Most RMs are taught basic Level 1 first aid.

Some will undergo the 5-day Level 2 course, it varies by unit but 45 Cdo, for example , try to train about 2 per section (ie: 6 per troop)

RMs can specialise as qualified Medical Assistants and undergo the same course as their RN counterparts (same as Army Combat Med Techs)

I'm sure @The guide will correct/update this info idc if necessary.
 

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As ever Ninja, cheers for the insight always appreciated.
 

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@DDraper The branch does exist and is full at marine level , the course is just on 1 year long as is located at Lichfiled it is also now a tri-service course. You qualify as a Ambulance Technician. Other ranks at a unit complete what is called MATTS training which cover basic life support - this is all ranks , other guys will go on to complete Team Medic courses which is at the ratio of 2 ranks per 8 man section (or it should be)If you go into the med branch you compete for promotion directly against the RN medics as well as the RM one,s and the branch as a whole is run by the RN and not the RM , but you would have what is known as a WOMA (warrent officer) as head of the green medics both RM & RN. Draft wise both the RN and RM units are open to you should you wish to go to a non green unit , but if a green job is open the drafting people prefer to put a green beret in that job. Medics also sit on the top pay supplement (3) above all except aircrew (level 4), but level with some of the more technical branches so well paid. The work can be mundane but it can be great as well , if you end up in a combat role with fire coming down you earn that money. Just a quick overview if you have any specific questions just ask.
 

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@DDraper The branch does exist and is full at marine level , the course is just on 1 year long as is located at Lichfiled it is also now a tri-service course. You qualify as a Ambulance Technician. Other ranks at a unit complete what is called MATTS training which cover basic life support - this is all ranks , other guys will go on to complete Team Medic courses which is at the ratio of 2 ranks per 8 man section (or it should be)If you go into the med branch you compete for promotion directly against the RN medics as well as the RM one,s and the branch as a whole is run by the RN and not the RM , but you would have what is known as a WOMA (warrent officer) as head of the green medics both RM & RN. Draft wise both the RN and RM units are open to you should you wish to go to a non green unit , but if a green job is open the drafting people prefer to put a green beret in that job. Medics also sit on the top pay supplement (3) above all except aircrew (level 4), but level with some of the more technical branches so well paid. The work can be mundane but it can be great as well , if you end up in a combat role with fire coming down you earn that money. Just a quick overview if you have any specific questions just ask.
Do you happen to know the average wait to get into the specialisation guide ??
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The reason for the wait is due to the fact the RN/RM training requirement is over-subscribed. It's 24 months to join as an RN MA also.

On the positive side, potential RM MAs are usually quite happy to spend a couple of years in the GD role whilst they wait to get on a course.
 

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The reason for the wait is due to the fact the RN/RM training requirement is over-subscribed. It's 24 months to join as an RN MA also.

On the positive side, potential RM MAs are usually quite happy to spend a couple of years in the GD role whilst they wait to get on a course.
Why do so many want to stay GD over having a SQ isn't there more chance of promotion and doing something you enjoy in your SQ (provided you get your choice). What exactly does a GD marine do day to day? Is it the variety that makes it desirable?
 

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Logically it makes sense to get a trade that gives you transferrable skills but after 32 or more weeks training to be a Commando, most lads initially want to get out on the ground at the sharp-end, gaining the experience of real-life soldiering.

Some join with the romantic notion that they'll be shooting nasty people in the face from dawn to dusk, with impunity for their entire military career.

You are spot-on in believing promotion is generally faster in a specialist role.

In my AFCO, at the moment, we've an Air Gunner (potential Aircrewman) and an Assault Engineer. To all intents & purposes, they are employed as GD Royal Marines at the minute & likewise they could be if they were deployed tomorrow. The only way you'd know they were more than just GD marines, when viewed from afar, is if they wore dress uniform. That said, if I need anything blown-up or strafed from above in my AFCO (hope my boss is reading this :) ), I know who to ask.
 

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@DDraper The branch does exist and is full at marine level , the course is just on 1 year long as is located at Lichfiled it is also now a tri-service course. You qualify as a Ambulance Technician. Other ranks at a unit complete what is called MATTS training which cover basic life support - this is all ranks , other guys will go on to complete Team Medic courses which is at the ratio of 2 ranks per 8 man section (or it should be)If you go into the med branch you compete for promotion directly against the RN medics as well as the RM one,s and the branch as a whole is run by the RN and not the RM , but you would have what is known as a WOMA (warrent officer) as head of the green medics both RM & RN. Draft wise both the RN and RM units are open to you should you wish to go to a non green unit , but if a green job is open the drafting people prefer to put a green beret in that job. Medics also sit on the top pay supplement (3) above all except aircrew (level 4), but level with some of the more technical branches so well paid. The work can be mundane but it can be great as well , if you end up in a combat role with fire coming down you earn that money. Just a quick overview if you have any specific questions just ask.
Ah man, what a treasure trove of info! Thanks a lot for the reply, really insightful.
 

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With regards the 2 year waiting list eluded to above, am I right in thinking that it's not just a case of waiting 2 years then transferring to that branch,there has to be an opening in the branch in the first place.
 

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That,s a good question..in theory ,!..yes..in reality no not always...the rational behind this is down to the training cycles..a course runs with say 50 ranks 30 Army 10 RAF & 10 RM / RN if we do not take our slots up or reduce the numbers attending the course the other services who also have waiting lists will take them and in the military and the present climate it,s easier to hols on to your slots / allocation as once lost they are very hard to claw back , so over manning is tolerated to a degree.
 

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That makes total sense, @The guide, what would the answer to my question be if applied to non tri-service courses, ie to a RM SQ.
 

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That tends to a warm body in a warm body out...but there is some pragmatism for the same reasons..but as the courses are mostly internal to the Corps they can be turned off / on with a bit more ease...but courses are only turned off as a last resort.
 

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Logically it makes sense to get a trade that gives you transferrable skills but after 32 or more weeks training to be a Commando, most lads initially want to get out on the ground at the sharp-end, gaining the experience of real-life soldiering.

Some join with the romantic notion that they'll be shooting nasty people in the face from dawn to dusk, with impunity for their entire military career.

You are spot-on in believing promotion is generally faster in a specialist role.

In my AFCO, at the moment, we've an Air Gunner (potential Aircrewman) and an Assault Engineer. To all intents & purposes, they are employed as GD Royal Marines at the minute & likewise they could be if they were deployed tomorrow. The only way you'd know they were more than just GD marines, when viewed from afar, is if they wore dress uniform. That said, if I need anything blown-up or strafed from above in my AFCO (hope my boss is reading this :) ), I know who to ask.
Thanks yet again ninja.
 
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