Medically Unfit From Knee surgery

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Just had some bad news from an MRI scan I have a grade 1 tear in my anterior cruciate ligament and I've also torn my cartilage (meniscus) in my knee joint, this now requires surgery after speaking to a knee specialist.

Haven't told my afco yet but *text deleted**text deleted** give them a call tomorrow.

Does anybody know if this would bar me from entry or will I fail a medical if they make me do another one.
 

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Just had some bad news from an MRI scan I have a grade 1 tear in my anterior cruciate ligament and I've also torn my cartilage (meniscus) in my knee joint, this now requires surgery after speaking to a knee specialist.

Haven't told my afco yet but *text deleted**text deleted** give them a call tomorrow.

Does anybody know if this would bar me from entry or will I fail a medical if they make me do another one.
In the same boat here, having looked over my application form filled it in and got to the end reading medical bit, it did say that it was bar and on here they say also same.

My recruiter told me to fill it in anyway and the qualified medical personnel will give you the answer. With that the application is now just sitting in the drawer collecting dust.

Having seen a suggestion (on here) to try joining the army aka paras since they might be a bit more relaxed (not just take any cast off mind you), i was again informed no by the recruiter on several occasion :unsure:

I have a very demanding lifesyle on my knee, work evolves carting heavy load around, walking for miles a day and constant bending/squatting (not even a marine, close to it :amuse:) . I run morning and night 1.5miles to work and back 5-6x, then 3-5miles random during the week/end, not to mention i do a half marathon every year plus 5x football games (which stopped doing so could concentrate on getting in)...and i still cant get in :sad2: .. In 29 years of living on this planet its the first time i actually said "yes" this is what i wanted to do with my life.

Oh and hello all.
 

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ACL reconstruction surgery is unfortunately a bar to entry for Royal Marines but not necessarily other arms of the services.

Again, only the medical examiner is qualified to establish medical suitability, but at the same time have a realistic expectation & consider alternatives in the event this surgical procedure is required.
 

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Thanks guys

Ninja,
Would it be a bar to entry for surgery on the cartilage (knee meniscus) only, if it turns out the acl tear isn't as bad as first thought.

Sorry to be a pain but it's a possibility that it may be one and not the other I was just told by the specialist

Thanks
 
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Alfaholic,

Not every situation is the same however, I had a meniscal tear which was surgically repaired. Even after a 12 month TMU and an appeal, I was classed as medical unfit.

Good luck.
 

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An ACL tear is a bar for the RN/RM it is not from the Army, although it needs to be a hamstring graft or bone patella bone repair. (Make sure your surgeon does one of those) the person needs to have fully recovered before he applies though.
 

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An ACL tear is a bar for the RN/RM it is not from the Army,
Thanks for that hoofin, can i ask you how you know this because i went to my local office and told him i had an acl recon 3-4 years ago was told no it's also a bar :unsure:

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I was told acl reconstruction surgery was a permanent bar as some acl tears do not require surgery.

I think the tears are graded 1,2,3
 

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I was told acl reconstruction surgery was a permanent bar as some acl tears do not require surgery.

I think the tears are graded 1,2,3
Sorry don't know if it was directed for me or just in general, i was referring to it not being a bar to join the army.
 

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no sorry what I was trying to say was I've had some conflicting information from the above posts. If I have to have surgery on the acl or meniscus its a permanent bar- this I know is a fact

However if I don't require surgery as in some cases with minor acl tears and minor meniscus damage then I would just be tmu'd with physio etc until I am fully fit.

Sotiris (who I'm aware is the forum expert on knee injuries) has now thrown me a curve ball in the fact that even if I don't need surgery I'm still permanently barred.

Confused....
 

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Well hope you get the answer your looking for. As i hope i can still join armed forces.
 

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i ripped my cartilage in my left knee but when i had my surgery they *text deleted** to me when they opened my knee up it had healed up perfectly and he stich me up, do you think it will effect me ?

after my stichs came out a week after i was back running and going gym and training but i lost fitness when i did it so im getting that back now ... thanks
 

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It depends on the type of injury & remedial surgery. Bog standard cartilage surgery (if there is such a thing) isn't usually a bar to entry but routinely a recovery period of around 12 months is required.
 

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Need Ninja to clear it up really

it might be on a 'case-by-case' basis though so the answer will probably be speak to the afco medical examiner

I'm seeing a private knee specialist now for a second opinion and hopefully I won't need surgery on either my acl or my meniscus.

But as sotiris says even if you've torn or damaged either without requiring surgery it's also a permanent bar!? (thanks for that by the way as its completely thrown me!)
 

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It depends on the type of injury & remedial surgery. Bog standard cartilage surgery (if there is such a thing) isn't usually a bar to entry but routinely a recovery period of around 12 months is required.
Apologies Ninja posted the above before seeing this. That's good news for me then as my acl shouldn't require surgery as its only a Grade 1 tear.

Don't really want to wait a year to reapply though, banking is not where I belong...
 
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But as sotiris says even if you've torn or damaged either without requiring surgery it's also a permanent bar!? (thanks for that by the way as its completely thrown me!)
Just to clarify, that's not what I said.

In my case , my meniscus tear and subsequent corrective surgery resulted in a medical bar from entry.

Don't ask me why, the doctors didn't even examine my knee and I served my TMU period three times over.

Really, it shouldn't matter. Each and every case seems to be dealt with differently. Get yourself fixed then sort your application out.

The worst that could happen is that they fail you.

And that's not so bad, in the end.
 
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