New PJFT Standards as 1st May 2018

[CHUB!]

CHANGE TO PJFT ​

As of the 1st May 2018;

Treadmill
1st Run 2.4 km in 12 mins 30 secs
1 min rest
2nd Run 2.4 km in 10 mins 30 secs

ERGO
There isn't an incline anymore and there is an extra 30 secs on the 2nd run.

 

[sbradb]

Lies... I can’t believe that!

 

[Seags98]

Any reason for this?

 

[Eafy]

Huh...I thought April Fools Day had been and gone??

 

[its_meg]

...surely not??

 

[ThreadpigeonsAlpha]

And the reason for the change is.....

 

[CHUB!]

I can't comment as it will just appear as *text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted**text deleted*.
Safeguard, 12 Clips, Green Foulies, full citadel oh and throw in robocop!

 

[sbradb]

Just echoing TPA and Seags asking what the reason for the change is?

 

[ThreadpigeonsAlpha]

Just echoing TPA and Seags asking what the reason for the change is?

So that it’s not seen as lowering it for women. Little creep at a time...

Considering the PJFT was changed to make it difficult because lads kept failing elements of the PRMC, we are taking a back step...

 

[CHUB!]

No the RN test has been adjusted also. so there isn't any subterfuge WRT to females. This has all come from the Head Honcho's of all training establishments in discussion with Naval recruiting. Unfortunately my boots aren't big enough to be consulted or challenge!

 

[Illustrious]

@CHUB! The navy has no doubt been adjusted because they can't recruit enough candidates. The Corps doesnt have that problem, so I'm firmly in @ThreadpigeonsAlpha 's camp on this one. Call me cynical but it is a little bit too much of a coincidence for me to just discount it as a navy wide thing and therefore not a change in standards by the back door.

 

[Eafy]

Seems that this is "Heard it here first" as the Royal Navy website has not been updated yet. Thanks for the report @CHUB!, even if it's not what everyone wanted to hear...

 

[CHUB!]

Ican feel the snipers engaging from my office window.............please don't shoot the messenger. I am fully on your side as I have to try and manage these candidates to PRMC. WRT to the RN they have to achieve the old PJFT time at week 6 in training. I am sure PRMC will send back statistical feedback if a readjustment is needed.

 

[Ninja_Stoker]

And the reason for the change is.....

 

[its_meg]

My first thought was an echo of what has been said on here too. Even if we assume it is to do with women joining all it will do is make it 10x harder for women to get into and through training. The opposition will intensify too much (understandably if we are honest) and put even more women off it...or is that their plan all along

 

[Advocado]

Embarrassing, when will someone in the head shed reach down their pants grab their balls and refuse the drop in standards.

This is just the first step, when people start failing the PRMC because they passed an easier PJFT they won't look at reverting the PJFT they will use it as an excuse to make the PRMC easier, soon after due to recruit wastage at CTC they'll probably end up making training softer and easier.

A few years down the line our ranks are infiltrated with unfit men and unfit women who are stealing a wage and the corps is no longer fit for purpose.

Yes I'm being cynical and grumpy but I don't think my prediction will be too far from correct! Time will tell.

 

[dodgyknees]

I may be mischief making (bored in the office on a post-leave Monday afternoon) and am considering signing out a set of Osprey as I feel some incoming but just a thought...

Many on this thread talk about having to train specifically to pass the PJFT which has little to do with the PT undertaken on either PRMC or POC. This being the case, will a reduction in this hurdle enable prospective candidates to focus more on getting themselves fit for selection at CTC rather than passing an arbitrary test? As long as CTC do not lower their standards, it COULD be argued that this is a good thing.

 

[ThreadpigeonsAlpha]

I may be mischief making (bored in the office on a post-leave Monday afternoon) and am considering signing out a set of Osprey as I feel some incoming but just a thought...

Many on this thread talk about having to train specifically to pass the PJFT which has little to do with the PT undertaken on either PRMC or POC. This being the case, will a reduction in this hurdle enable prospective candidates to focus more on getting themselves fit for selection at CTC rather than passing an arbitrary test? As long as CTC do not lower their standards, it COULD be argued that this is a good thing.

The original PJFT was a single mile and a half run. Which was changed to the 2 runs, one at a base speed and another best effort due to lads failing in aspects of PRMC/RT.

As far as I was aware and told the 2 runs was introduced to make it harder but also to ensure correct training and preparation was made to continue onto PRMC/RT.


Running on a flat treadmill is not beneficial nor replicates real running. And it may just be 30 seconds now but the creep will slowly break it down over time.

 

[sbradb]

The original PJFT was a single mile and a half run. Which was changed to the 2 runs, one at a base speed and another best effort due to lads failing in aspects of PRMC/RT.

As far as I was aware and told the 2 runs was introduced to make it harder but also to ensure correct training and preparation was made to continue onto PRMC/RT.


Running on a flat treadmill is not beneficial nor replicates real running. And it may just be 30 seconds now but the creep will slowly break it down over time.

What was the original PJFT time exactly? I’ve only known it to be the current one.

 

[DBenn01]

Would it not be a good idea to train with the incline and less time anyway? Aiming to be training harder than the requirements seems a logical approach.