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Officer application after university

Discussion in 'POC Section' started by Zak123, Jan 15, 2019.

  1. Zak123

    Zak123 New Member

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    Hi guys. I was considering maybe going officer after university which i will be starting this September. One of my worries is that i don't consider myself as a confident person and tend to take the back seat sometimes when i feel i am out of my depth and consider myself somewhat introverted . I also have next to zero leadership experience. Do you think it would be possible i could improve my confidence, leadership etc whilst at university and make me a better potential officer candidate . I want to challenge myself and my self limiting believes, thats why i considered applying as an officer but i am skeptical that i can change these 'character qualities' whilst at uni to become a 'leader'. I have also considered other rank. Opinions greatly appreciated.
     
  2. Chelonian

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    Yes. Without doubt. Expose yourself to new experiences, particularly those outside of your comfort zone.

    Research the roles of Other Rank and Officer. One is not intrinsically 'better' than the other but they are different roles. I understand that many Other Rank candidates for Royal Marines are academically qualified for Officer.

    Currently there is one RM Young Officer Batch intake annually, starting September. Just only about fifty start in that one intake so competition is keen. But if you want it enough...
    Best of luck.
     
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  3. dodgyknees

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    Agree with @Chelonian that you need to have a real think about what you want to do. Degree does not always mean Officer, far from it and as such make sure this is what you want. Lots of NODs have degrees.
    To help you decide suggest the UOTC is a really good place to start. It will give you a chance to lead, hopefully some confidence and most importantly an insight into the role of a YO. You will also mix with lots of other Potential Officers giving you an insight into whether these are the sort of people you want to spend your career with.
     
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  4. Zak123

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    Thanks for advice. Thats what am hoping to achieve at uni by getting out of my comfort zone. I never seen myself leading 30 odd men in a troop but maybe the training will bring me up to that standard? I am also intrested in other rank but don't want to shoot myself in the foot if i later want to be in a more leadership type role.

    Definitely planning on joining the uotc, will this be a better option than the urnu or uas? Also i heard the uotc is more of a drinking club and many people aren't serious about joining the millitary?
     
  5. dodgyknees

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    UOTC is definitely the best option of the three. It is what you want it to be. Many do join as a drinking club but others take it more seriously. The point is you get opportunities: overseas exercises; AT; sport etc are all there should you wish to take part. You said you want a bit of confidence and a chance to lead; this will allow you to do that and get paid. It’s an old cliche but you get out what you put in.
     
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  6. Chelonian

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    There is a difference between quiet confidence and arrogance. Research, prepare and give it your best shot. Bear in mind that if one passes POC and then AIB, makes the final cut to join a YO Batch and then completes 52 weeks of YO training you will be considered suitable to command a Troop regardless of doubts you have just now.

    I'm suggesting that if you decide that you want to give it a go then do so.
     
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    Hello mate. Don't get yourself too down, it's great to have a goal! You have plenty of time at uni to develop yourself and gain some confidence. I was the same and uni has given me a ton of confidence and life experience, something which goes a long way.

    Firstly, see uni as a chance to up your phys for YO training/selection, I imagine there'll be a relatively cheap student union gym, so get some pull-ups in the bank.

    Secondly, I highly recommend UOTC or URNU, both expose you to a military environment where you can gain leadership and teamwork skills. It's only one night a week, and one weekend every now and then, so it's not a ton of commitment. I joined URNU purely due to the fact that I also want to go down the RM Officer route and I felt that it would help more with the AIB side of selection due to it being apart of the RNR. I completely admit that sometimes people take it too seriously and that it's a bit of a drinking club (same for UOTC), but everyone's a student and student's love drinking! There are people who are serious about the military though, so at least go for an open evening in September/October.

    Hope this helps! :)
     
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  8. Zak123

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    I will give the officer route a crack and if it doesn't work out I'll switch to OR. That being said at uni i need to do a massive 360 on how i think and deal with things. For example i struggle sticking to my own guns and find it hard to say no sometimes. One thing going for me is that i do believe i am 'quietly confident' but being vocal is what i need to work on.
     
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    Yep will check the university societies out. I think i need to socialise more *text deleted* and get life experience :).

    I'm also working on my phys with running and doing calisthenics but needs to be improved which i got plenty of time to do.
     
  10. Chelonian

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    From what I understand being vocal is a key element of AIB. Put another way it's about asserting yourself. If you feel lacking in confidence in this area consider getting stuck into activities at university that will enhance confidence. Perhaps a debating society? @dodgyknees might have a few suggestions too.
     
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  11. dodgyknees

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    Agreed. Anything that gets you stood up in front of a group will help build your confidence. But don’t just think about Uni; when you’re on hols get out and about and volunteer either locally or abroad. It may sound a bit naff but always looks good on the RM application and can help with the confidence. You will be surprised how quickly you feel confident in your own skin once you put yourself out there.
     
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    As a matter of interest, what in particular makes you feel joining as an Officer is the preferred route, @Zak123 ?

    Are the "character qualities" you consider lacking, something you aspire to develop?
     
  13. Zak123

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    I don't know why put aspect of looking out for members of your troop is is what am intrested in. I think i can describe myself as 'quietly confident' in my own decisions but mentioned above i like to devolp this confidence and be more assertive.
     
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