Officer Career Progression - Have I got this right?

Discussion in 'RM Officer questions' started by jg332, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. jg332

    jg332 New Member

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    If anyone could shed some light for me, I just want to confirm that I am on the right track here.


    So YO's are recruited, in September, and commissioned (IC) as a 2Lt from day one.

    Phase one then lasts 15.5 (or 15?) months (attaining the Green Lid 32 weeks into 15 months?) before being appointed Troop Commander.

    Troop commander for 12 months is Phase 2

    After this, Officer is promoted to Lt and is now free to specialise.

    3 Years as a Lt, and the Officer is promoted to Capt (without exception?)

    This is the rank most Officers leave the RM at. How many years served as a Capt (minimum) are required to qualify to be promoted to Major?

    If the YO has not dropped out in the first 6 months(with 14 days notice) then the minimim Return of Service is up to the time of Captain promotion. So ROS = 5 years ish (+ 3 months, 15months P1 2Lt, 12months P2 2Lt, 3 years as Lt )?

    Is this the right of it? Thanks alot in advance for any advice you can give me.
     
  2. smarty90

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    Yeah that's all present and correct I believe. I think the promotion to Major is assessed on merit rather than a minimum time period (as in you will be selected when the service feels you are ready).
     
  3. VTomasi

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    There is rumour of YOs becoming Officer Cadets as of 2013 and not commencing training as 2Lts. The new progression is somewhat unclear as the system is changing.

    Return of service is irrelevant until pass out as one is able to leave at any time.

    Major is usually around the 8yr mark, based on merit.
     
  4. Dyss

    Dyss Royal Marines Commando

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    Some of that is right. Some is wrong.
    Upon passing YO training, the man is a full lieutenant.
    Captaincy can be gained in one year if your a graduate (degree).
    And with regards promotion it is similar to NC ranks- when your ready and are experienced enough!

    Cheers.
     
  5. Hopefulfutureroyalmarine

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    Vtomasi! Haven't seen you on this forum since your how YO is going thread ? So, how is it going? 5.5 months has gone fast
     
  6. VTomasi

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    All goes well, indeed it goes very quickly! It's all coming thick and fast, but it's good fun and needless to say challenging!
     
  7. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    According to the AFPRB 2012 report, RM Officers entering from 2013 onwards, will have the same advancement prospects regardless of qualifications held or age.

    Rank on entry is to be confirmed but the stated starting payscale (?24,615) is commensurate with 2Lt .... Watch this space.
     
  8. WAH

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    Sorry for hijacking the thread but i have a question would an officer be able to refuse a promotion to major for example? And would there be any punishment for doing this?
     
  9. Chelonian

    Chelonian Well-Known Member

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    Consulting my crystal ball, are you asking if an Officer can prolong his service as a troop commander by declining promotion?
     
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  10. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    Many join the Armed Forces with the naivety of youth, thinking they will serve at the sharp-end for an entire career with total impunity.

    During Herrick, the average combat infantryman had his fill by their third tour, on average. Some served longer and continue to serve but the long term effect on the individual's well-being is not known.

    My guess is there's a ticking time-bomb of future cases of PTSD in the coming years, sadly. I sincerly hope I'm wrong.
     
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  11. WAH

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    Yes
     
  12. Chelonian

    Chelonian Well-Known Member

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    As alluded to by Ninja, everyone's ambitions and goals evolve. It is likely that after several years as a Troop commander many identify new goals as their individual talents evolve and become apparent.

    Our careers (hopefully) evolve and we move forwards rather than remaining static. Inevitably, the time will come when one can't run up a hill with a bergan and a weapon as fast as a younger man; trust me on that. :)

    Also, bear in mind the needs of the service which will always take precedence over the career aspirations of the individual. Ask yourself why the Royal Marines would permit, say, a 30-year-old, experienced Captain to continue commanding a Troop rather than a Company, thus denying that opportunity to a newly trained 2nd Lieutenant.
     
  13. TheFTC

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    Is this information still correct today?
     
  14. Ninja_Stoker

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    Yis.
     
  15. TheFTC

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    Many thanks Ninja
     
  16. gijane

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    Sorry Ninja, member of the '16 batch here. YOs are promoted to Lt on passout of CTC after 15.5 months and promotion to Captain isn't a given after 3 years anymore. Hopes this helps.
     
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  17. Ninja_Stoker

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    Cheers, all input very welcome - I thought it was five years to Captain, upon re-reading it? (Irrespective of qualifications/advancement)
     
  18. gijane

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    It's been put to us that we'll be competing for our promotion to Cpt
     
  19. Ninja_Stoker

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    Hmmn, that's an interesting one. Maybe there is a 'jetty bulge' (manning surplus) at that career point. Although promotion is merit-based and high-flyers may get accelerated advancement I've not yet heard heard of anyone (other than complete duffers) get held back at the 5 year point.

    Possibly 'times are a-changin'.
     
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    How are you finding it?

    Have you found anything specifically very challenging?
     

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