Officer unit allocation/specialisation

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  1. pv5c42n0x

    pv5c42n0x New Member

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    Good afternoon all,

    While I may be jumping the gun a bit, I was wondering whether upon completion of YO training, an officer has any choice in the unit they join?

    Plus, after a year as a troop commander, what are the options one would have for specialisation? (I've found this for other ranks, but I know it's a bit different for officers).

    As a side, I appreciate all the knowledge and support on this forum. Cheers, lads.
     
  2. green_beret0710

    green_beret0710 New Member

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    Lots of other threads about this,
    After YO from my understanding you get a preference but ultimately it is down to the needs of the service and where they need you to be.
    As for specialisations, you can find them on the RN website but off the top of my head there is Heavy Weapons, Pilot, Landing Craft, Signals, Intelligence, Special Boat Service, Physical Training, Mountain Leader.
     
  3. dodgyknees

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    Senior batch going through this at the moment...jobs on offer are 40,42,43,45 plus 2 and 3 para and CLR. You get to list your preferences 1-5 and then you get selected on your job based on:
    Needs of the service
    Performance on course
    Preference
    Batch pretty confident most will get to go where they want.
     
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  4. Ninja_Stoker

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    It's an interesting topic. @Hazey66 mentioned to me recently that in the new Royal Marines careers publication, RM Officer specialisations, for direct entry Officers have reduced from 7 specs down to 3.

    Pilot, to my understanding is no longer listed as an RM Officer specialisation - presumably they now transfer to RN. Other specs such as PT Officer, we think, maybe restricted to Corps Commission

    Hopefully we'll get clarification on this but the new booklet, published via the Corps, has definitely changed in this area.
     
  5. Nathan100101

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    Would you be able to let us know when it is out or better yet maybe a pdf copy?
     
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  6. posh_punter

    posh_punter Royal Marines Commando

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    Out of interest, how come RM YOs are going to 2 & 3 para? Would you ever get officers from the Paras attached to commando units? Also what does CLR stand for?
     
  7. dodgyknees

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    There is one officer slot in both 2 and 3 para. They are going on ops and need backfill so have asked for RM to come across. These slots are normally filled by Corps Commission YOs so new entrants don’t pick up bad habits! CLR is Commando Logistic Regiment. Not sure about Paras to RM units but would be surprised if there wasn’t a reciprocal arrangement.
     
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  8. Chelonian

    Chelonian Moderator

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    There was certainly some 'cross-pollination' back in the 1970s. Obviously anyone bidding for 2 PARA will also need to meet the enhanced selection criteria for dashing good looks, wit and charm. :)
     
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  9. green_beret0710

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    @Ninja_Stoker
    Was this stated in the booklet? Would you be able to put a pdf on the forum?
    Thanks
     
  10. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando

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    To the best of my knowledge, (my cousin used to take the course through), there are only a couple of PT & SOs around. The delivery of all PT work is undertaken at JNCO and SNCO level. There used to be one at CTC, so I expect if there is one around, then that's where it will be as OC the gym. Maybe @Illustrious can confirm, or otherwise.

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  11. Ninja_Stoker

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    The original RM Careers Guide(download here) (Level 2/RM/Version 3) indicates there were 7 RM Officer Specialisations on pages 22 & 23.

    The newly published RM Careers Guide (Level 2/RM/Version 4) does not yet appear to be available online, front cover & relevant pages below, indicates just three RM Officer specialisations are available. Foreman of Signals Information Systems, Mountain Leader Officer & Landing Craft Officer. Hard copies are available through your local AFCO.

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  12. green_beret0710

    green_beret0710 New Member

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    Thanks very much.
    Does this mean it is no longer possible to pursue the previous specialisations?
     
  13. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando

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    I would hazard a guess and say that's a fairly sound assumption! :D

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  14. Ninja_Stoker

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    Yep, to be fair, RM Officers may have the opportunity to undertake a tour in many of the roles previously assigned as a specialisation, such as Heavy Weapons, SBS, Intelligence but usually only for a limited period before moving-on to another role after a year or two. They would not usually stay in an HW, SBS or INT post for an entire career.

    In the case of pilot, although there are serving RM Pilots currently, they come under RN Fleet Air Arm command rather than directly under RM, even though CHF is assigned for operational tasking in support of 3 Commando Brigade. Bottom line is a CHF Pilot, Observer or Aircrewmen could equally be RN and not necessarily Commando trained. Possibly @RM-Pilot, if he's about, maybe able to confirm future Pilots potential career path & whether transfer to RN will in future be the norm.

    PT Officer to the best of my knowledge is most often a CC or SCC Officer rather than direct entry.
     
  15. threadpigs

    threadpigs Royal Marines Commando

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    Was FoS always there?

    I looked into the UY scheme before which accepted IS bootnecks that wanted to commission, although this looks like another SCC route.
     
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  16. Ninja_Stoker

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    No. Sigs Officer but not FoS.

    My guess is they've stripped-away the specs that involve one routine tour as an Officer & G4 specs undertaken by CC/SCC Officers. Pilot is the odd one out as it's technically a spec RM Officers can do, but it's a career change....I think.

    Likewise, few SBS Officers spend a career in the SBS, although they may return to it as they progress through the chain of command.
     
  17. cc1

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    I had a boss that did his first tour at 3 PARA. Says it was one of the best experiences of his military career, and he was one of the best Officers I ever worked for; so clearly it works!

    There is, also, atleast 1 Para SNCO on the Junior Command Course training team.