Op Firefly 24 - Trained Rank Rejoins

[Ninja_Stoker]

For those interested, due to manning shortfalls within the regular service, trained ranks may apply to rejoin the Regular or Reserve Corps seamlessly up to 24 months after leaving the Regular service.

Contact your nearest RMR Detachment or AFCO for details.

 

[thewolveriene]

Is this a permanent change or until recruiting numbers replenish ?

 

[Ninja_Stoker]

Is this a permanent change or until recruiting numbers replenish ?

My guess is it a measure implemented only for as long as there's a shortfall of trained ranks. How long it will last is anyone's guess but still not heard any mention of a rejoin bounty yet.

 

[Beans and Chips pls]

Supposedly all ranks that have left in the last 2 years I believe will be getting a call and be asked about rejoining. Rumour is be offered 10000 grand (which is taxable) to serve a further 3 years.

 

[Ninja_Stoker]

Supposedly all ranks that have left in the last 2 years I believe will be getting a call and be asked about rejoining. Rumour is be offered 10000 grand (which is taxable) to serve a further 3 years.

Not heard the £10K rumour yet, but it sounds plaisible. Wonder how many Royals will hand their chit in to get the £10k?

 

[Beans and Chips pls]

Not heard the £10K rumour yet, but it sounds plaisible. Wonder how many Royals will hand their chit in to get the £10k?

I doubt many. As I said it's taxable, so it's not 10000 into your hand, and you've to do a ROS of 3 years. Equates to under 3000 a year if tax is taken into account!

 

[Caversham]

I doubt many. As I said it's taxable, so it's not 10000 into your hand, and you've to do a ROS of 3 years. Equates to under 3000 a year if tax is taken into account!

Not a bad run ashore though!

Alan

 

[R]

Is this a permanent change or until recruiting numbers replenish ?

Not a permanent measure.

Supposedly all ranks that have left in the last 2 years I believe will be getting a call and be asked about rejoining. Rumour is be offered 10000 grand (which is taxable) to serve a further 3 years.

10k for 5 years return to service is the current float, the problem is if the payment is offered to rejoins it needs to be offered to ranks currently servicing, which is the point where its being held up. I imagine when it is rolled out it will be offered to a particular segment of serving strength in the same way a retention payment was offered to retain ranks during the maritime boom! Interestingly the payment will be taxed as a bonus payment so HMRC will take a substantial chunk.

 

[Jaykay2343]

Not a permanent measure.



10k for 5 years return to service is the current float, the problem is if the payment is offered to rejoins it needs to be offered to ranks currently servicing, which is the point where its being held up. I imagine when it is rolled out it will be offered to a particular segment of serving strength in the same way a retention payment was offered to retain ranks during the maritime boom! Interestingly the payment will be taxed as a bonus payment so HMRC will take a substantial chunk.

Why have they got rid of the commitment bonus then now add this?

 

[ThreadpigeonsAlpha]

Not a permanent measure.



10k for 5 years return to service is the current float, the problem is if the payment is offered to rejoins it needs to be offered to ranks currently servicing, which is the point where its being held up. I imagine when it is rolled out it will be offered to a particular segment of serving strength in the same way a retention payment was offered to retain ranks during the maritime boom! Interestingly the payment will be taxed as a bonus payment so HMRC will take a substantial chunk.

I can’t beleive I missed this.

But this is NOT being offered by RMR.

It’s the Army Reserve that was offering this, the RMR mugged it off.

Any ex regulars reading this, I encourage and reccomend you to look at joining other Reserve Units. The RMR has shocking admin and you will be a glorified taxi driver for Nods and achieve nothing.

The Army Reserve is a far better service for admin, and understanding towards fulltime employment.

 

[Squatmonkey]

The RMR has shocking admin and you will be a glorified taxi driver for Nods and achieve nothing.

Not now with the compulsory mobilisations happening every year because of the manning issues!

I think the rmr should work as much as it can with the regular corps, but filling pids isn't what reserves are for imho

 

[The guide]

Not seen any evidence of a re-enlistsment bonus , either in the offing, or just as a idea..wishful thinking

 

[ThreadpigeonsAlpha]

It’s just rumours.

The RMR can barely pay people what they are owed, and at the right time, let alone throwing “bonus’s” into the admin vortex of JPA aswell.

 

[ThreadpigeonsAlpha]

Not now with the compulsory mobilisations happening every year because of the manning issues!

I think the rmr should work as much as it can with the regular corps, but filling pids isn't what reserves are for imho

No doubt when that proves to be more hassle than it’s worth, it will fall apart.

I am still waiting on an outcome of the poor lads deployed now who were led to beleive it was compulsory. It was complete manipulation, and since it was called out, suddenly no one wants to talk about it.

I wouldn’t mind deploying with RMR, but not for some Mickey Mouse event, not for some local/UK mainland glorified policing crap. And certainly not to sit on a unit and watch Jeremy Kyle. And Definately not without a bonus. Not to mention the lost time working, the overtime(which I wouldn’t be able to get or claim for), the experience, and the cost and time spent to retrain and get back to standard on return to my job. And all the disturbance of being away from family etc.

RMR will continue to be in this limbo until someone’s higher up actually does their job and changes it. There’s some glaring problems woth RMR, and ones that are unique to RMR, and not other reserve forces.

 

[ch301]

Is there any update to this guys?
I left a year ago, currently doing a carpentry apprenticeship. Due to qualify in record time (8 months early) college hate my utter Bootneck mentality and impatience to crack on. My problem is I find myself drifting back to what I left.
What is the gen dit’s on rejoining? I’m 31 currently, still fit and motivated, but really also don’t want to have to go through ctc again. Have never really settled into civvy life if I’m honest.
Does anyone have any gen info on
Starting pay on rejoining?
Do you get pinged straight off?
Minimum term of engagement?
Timescale to rejoin?
I left voluntarily, no Med, g1 etc and have a good testimonial. Did just over 6 years, nothing drastic and left gd marine.
Spoke to someone on phone from recruitment line and they said I’d have to do Prmc again, along with everyone else, basically didn’t sound like they had a clue. This can’t be true. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks!

 

[Caversham]

The rules keep changing on re-joins. A couple of years ago it was limited to SF and a few tech trades, but I'm fairly sure that the rules have changed again.

Hopefully one of the AFCO guys will be along shortly to give you the latest. @Ninja_Stoker @The guide or @CHUB!

Alan

 

[ThreadpigeonsAlpha]

Is there any update to this guys?
I left a year ago, currently doing a carpentry apprenticeship. Due to qualify in record time (8 months early) college hate my utter Bootneck mentality and impatience to crack on. My problem is I find myself drifting back to what I left.
What is the gen dit’s on rejoining? I’m 31 currently, still fit and motivated, but really also don’t want to have to go through ctc again. Have never really settled into civvy life if I’m honest.
Does anyone have any gen info on
Starting pay on rejoining?
Do you get pinged straight off?
Minimum term of engagement?
Timescale to rejoin?
I left voluntarily, no Med, g1 etc and have a good testimonial. Did just over 6 years, nothing drastic and left gd marine.
Spoke to someone on phone from recruitment line and they said I’d have to do Prmc again, along with everyone else, basically didn’t sound like they had a clue. This can’t be true. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks!

PRMC! What a load of utter horse jizz.

The last I heard, you go down to CTC for an couple (or set amount of) weeks do a transition course to evaluate your phys, BFT, CFT, weapons handling etc. That was a couple of years ago.
You would have to see out the original term so of your contract, without the ability to bang your chit in again for a set time.

This is all from memory so dont quote me.

Are you in RMR? Did you “seamless transition” (it’s not bloody seamless at all!) It might help joining RMR then banging in a transfer, or crack a Fulltime Reserve Contract.

But again joining RMR is utter admin because of capita and obvious horrendous corps admin. They will try and get you to go back and do all sorts of crap. But you left less than 5 years ago so stand your ground and tell them to get stuffed and get back into it.

 

[ch301]

Hi mate, thanks for that. I did seamlessly transfer to the RMR but only attended a handful of times due to my work commitments. It wasn’t great at the unit I went either so doubt I would’ve done much more within the RMR anyway. Bit disorganised etc.
From what the lads I’ve spoken to have said blokes are still banging their chits in in droves, so I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t take blokes back.
The weeks back at ctc does sound more like it though, I remember hearing that aswell. Cheers.

 

[Ninja_Stoker]

Trained ranks rejoining the regulars or joining the reserves don't do PRMC, although I have heard of a clueless careers adviser that mistakenly sent someone on one

When you contact the AFCO (or RMR unit, if joining the Reserves) just quote you wish to join under the 'Op Firefly 24' seamless transfer/rejoin scheme. You'll then hear someone scratching their head, wondering what that is, followed by a rustle of paper as they ruffle through a tower of recruiting instructions to check what you are on about. There's no joining bounty that I'm aware of & should join on the same pay increment you left on...double check you do, as errors are not uncommon.

If rejoining the regulars, you normally join CTC on a Weds, get re-kitted, respirator checks, undertake a BFT, weapons handling, assignment order, weekend off, join unit....

You'll probably get told there's a minimum return of service upon re-entry but in practice, you join on the AFPS 2015 contract and as a trained rank, you can bang your chit in day one if you want, but will probably not get early release, so will have to serve 12 months notice.

It should take less than a month to rejoin, but with Chrimbo leave upcoming, it could be Feb before you physically join.

At present, if you left as a GD, D3, Sigs, etc., there's every chance you'll rejoin as one and be subject to the same pings as everyone else.

Draft-wise, you can express a preference but as ever, expect to be sent wherever there's a pressing gap.

Any snags, shout out.

 

[ch301]

Thanks ninja,

this is what I expected to be honest. Basically I’m about 2-3 months shy off my apprenticeship completion and then I’ll be taking a little toddle into the local afco to check all this out, although I may have a look this week just to see what they say. From what you guys know are people still leaving in droves? Some of the lads I’ve spoken to have said it’s worse than when I left a year ago.
Cheers