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I've been getting all kinds of different information regarding what's involved for selection.

The Officers at the freshers fair say all that's involved is an interview. The website states that there is an interview, group discussion and 5 minute lecturette. Doesn't say what on.

Does anyone have any experience with OTC selection?

I'm thinking it can't be anything too demanding, as there are about 4 days between freshers fair and the "selection" date.
 

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to be honest with you mate, i dont even know what you are on about?!

what is OTC?

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Officers Training Corps. It's run for uni students.

I've just come back from the briefing and I'm not very impressed. Most of the Officer Cadets there look like kids and it just seems to be more focused on drinking and socialising.

I was shocked when the Sergeant Major said, "don't worry about the phys assessments, you don't need much fitness here (the only test that you have to pass is a 1.5 miles run and you have 14 mins to do it!!). The OTC is more about having fun and making friend. Being cold and wet over a few weekends is worth it because you know you'll be warm and dry by Sunday evening, and we pay you."....sigh. Then what the hell is the point!!

Oh well, the Marines seem to think it's worth it so I'll give it a go.

If you want to know more Mike here's the link:

http://www2.army.mod.uk/uotc/index.htm
 

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I guess its more for the taster of how things are but - you already have been through it so I think it's just something useful to add to the CV for you haha.

Sounds a bit easy to me though..
 

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My mate was in OTC and he said it was awesome. Along with it looking good for a future RM application I'd say go for it.

I joined the URNU (University Royal Naval Unit) and all I had for selection was an interview. Having said that, it was quite a thorough interview with 3 blokes asking the questions.

If the OTC is the same, they won't take on very many, I think 8 people got picked out of like 50 for URNU. I'm pretty sure you'll do fine if you show it's what you want as a final career. You get a lot of people signing up for the cheap pissups and sport with no intention of making a career out of it.
 

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. Most of the Officer Cadets there look like kids and it just seems to be more focused on drinking and socialising.

Alright mate, I looked into this at my uni and I asked a couple of folk who went to it about it and that's what I gathered from it - just a place to get pissed and have a laugh. Doesn't sound like officer training at all. I decided to try for RMR instead and got a selection weekend in a couple of weeks. It might sound good at AIB but it won't help you skillwise or in regards to fitness, at least that's what I think.
 

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I've been getting all kinds of different information regarding what's involved for selection.

The Officers at the freshers fair say all that's involved is an interview. The website states that there is an interview, group discussion and 5 minute lecturette. Doesn't say what on.

Does anyone have any experience with OTC selection?

I'm thinking it can't be anything too demanding, as there are about 4 days between freshers fair and the "selection" date.

Sotiris,

I was in Exeter Uni OTC for 2 and a bit years. For me it was a great introduction to military life and it helped fund uni life. When you pass selection you will start training as an Officer Cadet and work through to a TA Commission if that is an ambition for you.

Selection is a judgement of your character and involves stations of command tasks and interviews. A 3 mile run and a few press ups (its up to you how many you do).

Lots of drinking and the mess in Oakhampton!

Take a look at the link....

http://www.exeteruotc.org.uk/?p=about

I did 2 annual 2 week camps and lots of weekends ranging from Survival training with 264 Sigs Special Forces to cross country events to rugby games....etc!

Give me a shout back.

Jonnie
 

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I couldn't recommend the OTC highly enough! I have been with Glasgow and Strathclyde UOTC for the past 2 years and joining has been the best decision I have ever made! I obviously can't comment on other OTC's individually but to say it is a drinking club would be extremely harsh.

Yes we like a drink but when it comes to business OTC's are as good as many TA units. If you have ever heard of it Exercise Cambrian Patrol, is a patroling competition held in the cambrian hills in Wales and it is regarded as the toughest patrol competition in the British army. OTCs compete every year it is run and a large number of OTCs score higher than regular and TA units. Last year I entered along with a team who had little experience in OTC and none of the cambrian patrol, we achieved a bronze medal. The year before a team from our OTC achieved a silver and as prove this competition is no dander in the park, 2 years ago a team from 4 Para couldn't even complete the competition.

OTC is as serious as you want it to be, yes there is some people who will never join the forces but for those who do they can get decent training. If you are keen again using my OTC as an example we have had people do attachments with regular units going to Beilize, Poland and Canada for BATUS.

Oo and in terms of selection it really varys from OTC to OTC, it depends on how many people the OTC have looking to join. It varys from little or no selection to the 3 mile runs as mentioned.

And another thing OTCs use the same fitness standards as the British army, 1.5 miles in 10:30, 44 press-ups in 2 minutes and 50 sit-ups in 2 minutes.

Rant over!:kult:

(Sorry just finished 2 weeks recruiting with the OTC so im still in the recruiting frame of mind)
 

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Sotiris are you at Cardiff Uni? I'm going there next year and can't find anything about OTC.
 

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I've been wanting to join for some time now and as I move in to my accommodation today I should get the chance soon, that's if I don't fail the medical.

You probably will get that impression, with tons of soft students, but I think they are trying not to put anyone off. Any phys assessment should be a laugh though, hopefully my 1.5 miles in 10 mins should leave a nice gap.
 
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Thanks for the replies lads,

I spent the whole day yesterday in selection. They said they'd never had so many applicants. There were about 130 of us for 40 places.

What I realised from their open day breifing the day before was that I probably had more military experience then all of the cadets in there. This worried me as I'm already a 3rd year in my final year. They kept saying that they were looking for people they could build up, not for those that had done it before. I kept pushing the fact that I was a potential YO for the Marines and I felt the OTC would help me in my application. That seemed to do the trick!

Went in there, felt confident, calm and got in. Met a bunch of great lads that all got in as well so it's going to be a laugh.

Now I've got a ton of paper work to fill out woop woop!
 

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I've copied this off another website regards OTC -
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You want to stag on at 0300 in the snow? As a career? Good grief, how very odd. Still, best of luck to you. Can't imagine the prospects are anything special.

Actually, if you're in my glorious OTC, it doesn't cross your mind. Because you're normally sitting bolt upright on your roll mat. And you've lit a couple of hexy blocks to keep you warm, while you check your texts on your mobile. If you're both chicks, the other one's got her head in your lap while you braid her hair. Your own hair hasn't seen the light of day for a week now; it's buried under eleven purple and orange beanies, so that your helmet is perched a good six inches above your skull, and the chinstrap has to be extended with brightly coloured twine to keep it on your bonce. Your stag partner hasn't seen her gat for a good half an hour; it's 'somewhere over there on the floor'. You've given up trying to attach a CWS to the other weapon, and it's hanging from a tree branch.

Suddenly, you hear a snapping of twigs in the undergrowth. You chuck a flaming hexy block to see if it moves. Then you use the CWS. But whatever it was doesn't make a sound even after you've chucked that at it.

"Rachel" you whisper urgently
"What is it, Kate, I was literally just dropping off."
"There's something out there."
"Have you carried out the IA drill?"
"Yes, I've thrown hexy at it and giggled coquettishly. No dice."
"Damn. We should really get low."
"Good point. Bit cold though."
"You're right. Let's stand up"

So you stand. Your faces glow pinkly under the soft moonlight, as you have refused every effort to get you into cam cream since day one, given the 'really really really really bad' effect it has on your skin.

The unseen intruder moves again.

You both jump. Your left ammo pouch falls off.

"God. We should, like shoot it." exclaims your oppo.
"Have you got your gun with you?"
"No. It was bit heavy and the metal bits were all cold, so I left it by my tent thingy. It's gone all orange though, and the telescope thing on top has stuck to my mess tins"
"Go and get it. That RSM guy said we should have them all the time"

Panting, your oppo trots off into the darkness. She gets four yards before the comms string catches her under the chin and puts her on the floor like she's been clotheslined by Stone Cold Steve Austin.

"What the hell was that?!" she groans
"You silly," you reply, "it's that string the boys put up so that we could hang our 'ladies things' out to dry. Never mind about your gun, we'll use mine. Here, help me lift it..."

With tremendous effort, you and your stag partner prise your weapon off the forest floor. As you recover, hands on hips, your stag partner eyes it dubiously, covered in mud and home to a family of woodlice. She picks up a twig and sticks it through the triggerguard, lifting it up to pass to yo.....

BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-Click!!

"God, Rachel, be careful," you cry - "someone might hear us!"
"Sorry" she sniffs, miserably.
"Oh God, it's all empty now. I need more bullets. Don't know where my bullet pouch has gone actually...have you got a magazine on you?"
Smiling hopefully, Rachel proffers the copy of Cosmo she'd been reading by the light of a right angle torch....

"No", you giggle, "not that kind of magazine! I meant the metal kind - y'know, the rectangular thing that fits in this bit"
"Oh!" cries Rachel "I thought you meant tha....teeheheheheee!"
"Teeheeheeeheehee" you gurgle happily.
"Teeheeheeeheeehee", says Rachel
You say "Teeheeheeheee, no, I meant th...teeheehheeehee"

You clutch eachother tight, bodies shaking with mirth, for a good fifteen minutes, giggling excitedly for all you're worth.

Finally, you calm down.
"No, but seriously, Rach, have you got a magazine, the metal kind?"
"Yup" says Rachel proudly, rummaging in her utility pouch and producing a folded up hexy stove "here y'are"

Paralysed by your own doubts this time, you try and insert the stove into the magazine housing. Only after the stove has been reduced to a twisted piece of metal are you convinced. You round furiously on your oppo.
"No! This isn't one either! Look, just give me anything rectangular that looks like it might fit, that you've got in your stuff"

After having tried to insert the small mess tin, a Silva compass, pencil flare holder and various different Estee Lauder products into your weapon, you finally find a magazine. Just as you are about to slam it home, the 'thing' in the bushes moves again....

You clutch eachother. And jump. Your waterbottle pouch falls off.

"God, Rach, I am like, really, really scared now. I'm just *text deleted* shoot this thing"
"Wait! We're supposed to talk to it first, aren't we?"
"What?"
"Don't you remember, that talk, that those men gave - the one from the Princess of Wales and her...Royal Riflemen...Regiment, and the other one from that one that all wear Green jackets, or something - he was soooo dreamy, wasn't he? - he said you have to talk to it. And then shoot it"
"Kay, you talk to it, and then as soon as you're finished, I'll shoot it."
"Kay," replies Rachel, happily. "Here we go."

She takes a deep breath....

"Hellowhoeveryouaremynamesrachelandthisismyfriendkateandwearewonderingwhatyouredoingherenowasweresupposednottoletanyoneinherebutifyou'djustliketocomeoutandseeuswecansortitalloutokayi'mfinishednowkateyoucanshoothim." BANG! BANG! Click - the rifle, held together by rust and friendship bracelets, finally gives up the ghost as the TMH detaches and joins most of your webbing on the floor.

All is suddenly a cacophany of noise and cordite. Automatic fire rips through the air, flashes dance before your eyes like angry dragons. Deep within your memory of MTQ1 a phrase flashes into your brain and you summon all your energies as you cry....

"STAND UP! STAND UUUUP! EVERYONE STAND UUUP! COME ON GUYS, STAND UP, WE'RE BEING ATTACKED!"

All over the harbour area confused OCdts burst into action. There is a flurry of activity as they reach for the bottom of their maggots to retrieve their trousers, norgies, t-shirts, combat jackets, and socks, and furiously, get dressed. Slickly, helmets are retrieved from the tree branches they were hung off, ready for action the night before, bergens are expertly and speedily packed with the stuff from cooking that got left out yesterday because it was still a bit hot, and weapons are retrieved from mates-they-were-lent-to-because-his-was-a-bit-dirty-and-he-had-to-go-and-meet-the-CO-to-explain-why-he'd-been-doing-naked-pull-ups-in-the-bar-the-night-before. A lighting thirteen minutes later, with the platoon in various states of undress, speculative well aimed bursts of thirty rounds are let off in various directions, a couple by OCdts who've got lucky in the weapon raffle and have acquired two gats and who are doing a passable impression of 50 Cent smoking a few mo'fos. A few OCdts throw smoke grenades into the melee, because, hell, they probably won't get another chance, and they're cool. Besides, the borderline asthmatic in 2 Section's a bit of a penis, and who cares if he's coughing up orange carcinogens for the next three days...

In the midst of the calamity, no-one notices the GOC emerge shakily from the bush he'd been crouched behind right in front of you. The firepower demonstration in the harbour area behind your stag position is going as strong as ever, except now the Pl Comd's basha is on fire, and with a few OCdts leaping round the flames wearing nothing but a headover and thermal long johns, it's all getting a bit Lord of the Flies....

As for you, you and Rachel are stood stock still, aghast as the elderly general climbs, shaken by a conflagration he last saw as a subaltern in '82, to his feet. In his head he repeats to himself, matra-like "OTCs are good for the army's wider image, OTCs are good for the army's wider image, OTCs are good for the army's wider image" He wants to know what the hell that was about. He wants to know why these two sorry apparitions have less than half a rifle between them. He wants to know why the fat asthmatic is now strapped to a tree in the middle of the harbour with bungees while the rest of the Pl stick the end of their rifles in the fire and prod him with red hot BFAs. He wants an explanation for the greatest display of military incompetence since Lord Raglan said to his runner "You see those guns down the end of the valley...?" He braces himself, and says.....

"Hello young ladies...so what do you two do at university?"
 

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hahahaha! that was a classic! loving it!

so did you get into the OTC where you are them sotiris? i assume you did from a previous post. so does this group help you with fitness and general advice?

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Yea I got in.

No they don't really help you...if you're talking about the OTC that is. They train you! I'm an Officer Cadet so that's pretty cool.

I guess it'll be good for me as far as learning how to parade on a British stomping groud and becoming familiar with British equipment.

As far as fitness goes...well, I'm not really holding my breath. My (perhaps very accurate) guess is that an hour in the Greens with British Military Fitness is more physically demanding then a weekend with the OTC, but we'll see.

It's good for the CV at the end of the day.
 
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