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Yeah its a good positive.
I heard he stayed because Para reg is great and he said the Marines was far too easy.
Sounds kind of stupid if he was pinged went to a an almost SF unit and would get put somewhere were he couldnt show his new found skills.

What would you say is the most sought after competitive/prestigious unit SFSG or Pathfinders?
 

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What would you say is the most sought after competitive/prestigious unit SFSG or Pathfinders?

Define the metrics by which you measure prestigiousness? It is completely subjective. You’ll find most don’t care as the two preform very different roles. One is also a Tri-service organisation. Whilst the other is only open to members of three specific units. It’s horses for courses. People don’t tend to put themselves through the rigours of arduous training for respect and admiration.
Once you are serving you will be able to research both and make an informed decision. You will also be able to talk to those with first hand experience. If you want to join the Parachute Regiment, focus on that first. It isn't an easy hurdle. If you succeed, concentrate on learning as much as you can and prove to be a good egg and then ask through the appropriate channels. You may by then have made your home in 2 or 3 PARA and not want to move.

Thinking about who is the most elite is a waste of time. Any unit that requires some form of arduous test generally has some prestige attached to it. If you're looking for the most prestigious unit then you are making decisions about your future on the wrong grounds. If you look hard enough you will find a reason why almost every part of the armed forces might look most prestigious to one audience or another.
 

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might be a daft question but why would one someone attempt PF selection rather than SF selection?
 

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Im no expert but I would assume reasons such as PF selection is a lot shorter, the pass rate is probably higher for PF and most will probably use it as a stepping into SF. Also the two are not really comparable as both do different jobs.
 

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The Pathfinder Selection Course (PFSC) is clearly a very arduous and difficult course to pass. It is a tried and tested system designed to identify potential and develop those with the right qualities to be an Advanced Force Soldier. The course is set over 6 weeks. Whereas UKSF selection typically lasts around 6 months.

I also think that there is often a naive tendency to assume that every trained rank aspires to join the special forces. That it is the ultimate goal for all trained ranks. You’ll find that this isn’t the case and for many the prospect of enduring months of stress and hardship simply isn’t on their radar. Some really are just happy with their lot. People apply for these units for their own reasons and it isn’t always for a stepping stone.

It’s important to understand the actual roles. To join the PF is to join 16 Air Assault Brigade's advance reconnaissance force. In PF you will be employed in an airborne capable reconnaissance role. You will be highly trained to operate ahead of the main force collecting information on the enemy and reporting directly back to the Brigade HQ. PF soldiers & officers are trained in specialist airborne insertion techniques and capable of conducting offensive action at very short notice. PF platoon are also responsible for establishing, marking and securing drop and landing zones for the main force.
To join Special Forces is to join one of the three core UKSF units. An SF rank will be highly trained in a number of specific skills that are often unconventional. SF are involved in a very diverse set of activities ranging from covert reconnaissance to direct action. From counter terrorism to hostage recuse.
Of course PF soldiers go on to pass UKSF selection but it shouldn’t be seen as a necessity. Do what is right for you.
 

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The Pathfinder Selection Course (PFSC) is clearly a very arduous and difficult course to pass. It is a tried and tested system designed to identify potential and develop those with the right qualities to be an Advanced Force Soldier. The course is set over 6 weeks. Whereas UKSF selection typically lasts around 6 months.

I also think that there is often a naive tendency to assume that every trained rank aspires to join the special forces. That it is the ultimate goal for all trained ranks. You’ll find that this isn’t the case and for many the prospect of enduring months of stress and hardship simply isn’t on their radar. Some really are just happy with their lot. People apply for these units for their own reasons and it isn’t always for a stepping stone.

It’s important to understand the actual roles. To join the PF is to join 16 Air Assault Brigade's advance reconnaissance force. In PF you will be employed in an airborne capable reconnaissance role. You will be highly trained to operate ahead of the main force collecting information on the enemy and reporting directly back to the Brigade HQ. PF soldiers & officers are trained in specialist airborne insertion techniques and capable of conducting offensive action at very short notice.
To join Special Forces is to join UKSF. An SF rank will be highly trained in a number of specific skills that are often unconventional. SF are involved in a very diverse set of activities ranging from covert reconnaissance to direct action. From counter terrorism to hostage recuse.
Of course PF soldiers go on to pass UKSF selection but it shouldn’t be seen as a necessity. Do what is right for you.
Thanks mate, sums it up well!
 

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I remember a quote from a film or something talking about MMA fighters, you'll find guys all over the world in clubs who consistently train and on top of their game.

But some don't pursue fame, money, or the lifestyle but choose to stay where they are and help others better themselves. Even though they could compete and become world champions it's something that has no interest to them.
 
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