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So earlier today I received a message from my AFCO, as well as having two letters sent to my address about being PMU'd. The message from the AFCO has a pdf file attached but it won't open on multiple devices. Has anyone else had this problem?
 

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I'm sorry to hear that mate. If you don't mind me asking why were you PMU'd ? Is there any chance you could appeal it at all?
 

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Thanks for the condolences mate. They PMU'd me because I have a referral to see a face/neck specialist team about stones in my salivary glands. Once they are cut out I then need to get discharge papers in order to reverse the decision as well as provide information about a couple of injuries I have picked up whilst playing rugby. In other words I still have some hope.
 

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Thanks for the condolences mate. They PMU'd me because I have a referral to see a face/neck specialist team about stones in my salivary glands. Once they are cut out I then need to get discharge papers in order to reverse the decision as well as provide information about a couple of injuries I have picked up whilst playing rugby. In other words I still have some hope.

Bloody hell, don't let it get to you too much. So in this case you could re-apply after you have had the stones removed? @Ninja_Stoker may have more info on this. Best of luck in the future & I hope you can fulfil your dream.
 

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Its going to be a long process, I don't get to see the team until march and it will probably take another few months until they are cut out. At the end of it I reckon they will allow me to continue from where I have left off.
 

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Its going to be a long process, I don't get to see the team until march and it will probably take another few months until they are cut out.

Best of luck. As you are currently at the pre-surgery stage consider briefing not only your GP but your forthcoming clinical team about your career aspirations and that you hope to be able to appeal the PMU decision using your medical records as evidence.

Just to manage expectations, doing so will not affect the clinical accuracy of what is entered into your records but if your clinical team is mindful of your circumstances it may avoid future problems caused by perceived ambiguity.
 

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As you are currently at the pre-surgery stage consider briefing not only your GP but your forthcoming clinical team about your career aspirations and that you hope to be able to appeal the PMU decision using your medical records as evidence.

Just to manage expectations, doing so will not affect the clinical accuracy of what is entered into your records but if your clinical team is mindful of your circumstances it may avoid future problems caused by perceived ambiguity.
I have done and they have made my referral urgent so I can be seen quicker but being the NHS it is still going to take for ever. Even getting my medical records is a nightmare due to all the bureaucracy to the point where I am demanding under the FOI act that they give me what I need asap.
 

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I have done and they have made my referral urgent so I can be seen quicker but being the NHS it is still going to take for ever. Even getting my medical records is a nightmare due to all the bureaucracy to the point where I am demanding under the FOI act that they give me what I need asap.
If you're talking about hospital records, the first thing to do is apply to the records office in writing. You'll then have to fill in an application form which will need to be witnessed, to prove your identity.

For your GP records, just apply in writing, although they might provide them without if you speak nicely to the practice manager.

You cannot be refused.
 

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...although they might provide them without if you speak nicely to the practice manager.

The best advice. Polite charm will almost certainly get faster results than any other approach. It will usually bump one's request towards the top of the pile at the very least.
 

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I've tried the nice approach but they keep saying they need a request from the MoD but I was told to get the evidence myself from Capita, I've already typed a letter requesting the information and am going to hand it in at the GP's when I go to work later.
 

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I've tried the nice approach but they keep saying they need a request from the MoD but I was told to get the evidence myself from Capita, I've already typed a letter requesting the information and am going to hand it in at the GP's when I go to work later.
Nobody needs a letter from anybody except you. It may take some time to get your records but they cannot refuse to provide them. I think a GP may be able to charge you to cover the cost of admin but I'm not sure.
 

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Just thought I'd give a brief update and ask a question at the same time. I've finally got an operation booked for the end of May, however it looks like one of my saliva glands will be removed. Does anyone know whether this will bar me for a year or two, or am I likely to have a successful appeal?
 

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Just thought I'd give a brief update and ask a question at the same time. I've finally got an operation booked for the end of May, however it looks like one of my saliva glands will be removed. Does anyone know whether this will bar me for a year or two, or am I likely to have a successful appeal?
In many, but not all cases following successful surgery, a mandated period must elapse before a person's suitability for service can be reviewed. The period varies depending on the type of surgery but the period, usally between 3-12 months is non-negotiable.

The condition itself cannot be appealed against, but hopefully, once the op is undertaken, it will in itself not be a bar to entry.

The service cannot pass anyone fit to enter whilst undergoing ongoing treatment or awaiting surgery.

What you could do is reply in writing to the medical rejection letter and request they advise under what circumstances you can in future meet the medical standards for entry - this will then determine whether the condition is an outright bar and what mandated period must elapse if it is not a bar to entry.

Good luck with the op, hope all goes well.
 

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In many, but not all cases following successful surgery, a mandated period must elapse before a person's suitability for service can be reviewed. The period varies depending on the type of surgery but the period, usally between 3-12 months is non-negotiable.

The condition itself cannot be appealed against, but hopefully, once the op is undertaken, it will in itself not be a bar to entry.

The service cannot pass anyone fit to enter whilst undergoing ongoing treatment or awaiting surgery.

What you could do is reply in writing to the medical rejection letter and request they advise under what circumstances you can in future meet the medical standards for entry - this will then determine whether the condition is an outright bar and what mandated period must elapse if it is not a bar to entry.

Good luck with the op, hope all goes well.

Thanks for the information. I suppose the best thing to do at the moment is wait and see. I'll give an update when all's done and dusted.
 

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So I've finally got some good news and wanted to share it. After two operations (the first failed) the issue has been resolved and they managed to remove the stone without cutting out the gland.

I've spoken to my local AFCO and I will be appealing in August when I have my discharge papers from the hospital, however they said from the sounds of the op the appeal should be successful.

Attached is a picture of the little bugger.
 

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Good effort.

Have you already provided the information regarding the rugby injuries? Hopefully the rugby issues are not significant.

Best of luck.
 

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Good effort.

Have you already provided the information regarding the rugby injuries? Hopefully the rugby issues are not significant.

Best of luck.
I managed to get my files about those a few months back, they've just been collecting dust in my folder whilst I've been trying to sort this stone out. The rugby injuries aren't major, one was a muscle injury that lasted 3 months which happened 3 years ago, the other was a minor concussion.
 

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So I've finally got some good news and wanted to share it. After two operations (the first failed) the issue has been resolved and they managed to remove the stone without cutting out the gland.

I've spoken to my local AFCO and I will be appealing in August when I have my discharge papers from the hospital, however they said from the sounds of the op the appeal should be successful.

Attached is a picture of the little bugger.
Amazing that something that small has caused you so much of a headache.
 
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