Question for Marines or guys in RT

Robbie Spice

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When you're in RT what made guys quit the most ?


Because everyone is obviously dead up for joining the marines but then guys start quitting.


I'm just curious because obvisouly you're going to be taking it pretty dam seriously to even get to RT and I'd just imagine that once you finally got there , there wouldn't be much that would put you off.


So is it just too much exercise , too many beastings ?



On one of the documentaries I've watched, the one at Lympstone from 2000 , there was a cockney guy who said there was too many beastings and that no-one likes being talked to like *text deleted**text deleted* and no-one can put up with it and he ended up quitting, while obviously the other guys there could put up with it.


In Commando on the front line, besides things like Terry Johns injury and that kid at the start who quit on the first day I cna't remember any of the reasons why the other guys quit.




I'm very curious about this because I couldn't imagine getting so far and then quitting. Does it jsut get too mcuh?
 

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Yeah i'd like to know this as well. Everyone, including myself is so determined even just to pass the PRMC and begin RT, but you never really hear the real reasons why people quit.

Right now I think the only way I could fail the 32 weeks is through a serious injury, but maybe when i'm actually in training it will be completely different. No one really knows what to expect I suppose.
 

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One thing you have to remember is, not everyone is as serious about it as 'us'. By us I mean the guys on this forum. Because of this forum we're speaking about the Marines everday, which comes with huge amounts of motivation and encouragment.

Some of the guys who do not know about this forum may not be as prepared or motivated as us.

For example there's a guy I used to go to school and play rugby with. He's a big lad, but not really in my group of friends. None the less there's a mutual respect because of the 'old times' e.g Rugby.

Anyway, he told me some few weeks ago that he is joining the Marines. It turned out he hadn't started the App. yet, but he was going to be joining in a a month, or so he told all of his friends! He did not know what Marine pushups were, how to do the correct pull ups, what went on at PRMC etc. To be honest, without this site I don't think I would know all of it either. It just goes to show how much this site really has taught us without us, perhaps, knowing it.

As for the friend wanting to join the Marines. For the past few weeks his running (1.5 miles) hasn't improved from the original 12:30. However much I want anyone to make it through PRMC etc, I don't even think he'll get past the interview.


So basically what I'm trying to say is, I beleive, because of this site, we (PMRC lot) have a great advantage in the way of motivation, knowledge and support, than anyone else not on the forum.
 
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Aye it's the same with anything. We watch the beastings and exercises on TV and it all looks like fun. I myself keep thinking "only and injury will stop me". But the fact of the matter is, once you start feeling the pain that will inevitably set in, you start to think differently. Not everyone can handle it.


If you want to see how well you can handle a physical 'extra phys' go for a free session with these guys:

http://www.britmilfit.com/

Jump in with the greens and see how you cope. I've seen a few guys and gals turn up with the ambition of joining some branch of the forces. The last I remember was a women about 23 years old, who wanted to go to Sandhurst and was told by her RO to give it a go.

She didn't last 10 minutes.

At the end of the day, most people simply don't like getting the crap beasted out of them.
 

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Yeah, this sites deffinitely helped me loads, if it wasn't for this site, I dn't know where my training would be at all.

nice one passing the psychometric test Ross.
 

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so what's it like on average at one of those britmilfit training sessions ?

what does it consist of
 

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I'm not a Marine (yet) or in RT but I know alot of people quit because of their partners or family.
 

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Reasons Why

People quit basic training for all kinds of reasons.

Some of the most popular are:

Its not what they expected and they decide its not for them.
They can't hack it!
Injuries.

You have to take into account we are talking about the Royal Marines here and obviously its not meant to be easy. At the same time, the Royal Marines training is reputed to be some of the most arduous training in the western world, which requires a high level of grit, endurance and sheer determination to get through.

By the time you get near to the end of training, no matter what they throw at you, you will have the determination to press on regardless.

You are being trained to ensure that you carry on when others, both mentally and physically exhausted would have given up.

I would guess that's why they say: 99.99% need not apply. Its the 0.01% that make the grade.

If you want to be a Marine badly enough and have the qualities required, unless you acquire an excessive injury on the way, you WILL make it through.

Best Regards

Steve
 
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so what's it like on average at one of those britmilfit training sessions ?

what does it consist of

Lots of circuit training...exactly the kind of thing you'd expect in the military...hell the sessions are run by the military. So far I've been beasted by a Para, a Comms specialist, an Engy and a Bootneck. I haven't got round to asking what the others are. If you explain what your ambitions are they take "special care" of you...i.e. more beastings. Not to discourage you but to try and give you a hint of the reality to come. They're really helpful and positive, one of them offered to draw up a exercise regime for the holidays based on what he's seen of me so far.

Yea Bradford I've heard of a lot of people dropping out for those reasons...seems really silly and ALL of them regret it. I actually believe that the "family, partner" thing is a good cover/scapegoat for a plethora of other reasons.
 

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From what i have read, most recruits feel like wrapping at some point during RT....

The training team will try their hardest to keep you there if they think you are a good recruit. Remember, they want you to pass...... even though it may be hard to believe that at times!

I guess when you are cold, wet, miserable and being thrashed all the time and only in week 5, it is easy to lose sight of the bigger picture and to get disheartened!

I know a few people who wrapped in training out of their own choice, and they regret it so much now!

Lets not end up in the same boat
 

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Aye it's the same with anything. We watch the beastings and exercises on TV and it all looks like fun. I myself keep thinking "only and injury will stop me". But the fact of the matter is, once you start feeling the pain that will inevitably set in, you start to think differently. Not everyone can handle it.


If you want to see how well you can handle a physical 'extra phys' go for a free session with these guys:

http://www.britmilfit.com/

Jump in with the greens and see how you cope. I've seen a few guys and gals turn up with the ambition of joining some branch of the forces. The last I remember was a women about 23 years old, who wanted to go to Sandhurst and was told by her RO to give it a go.

She didn't last 10 minutes.

At the end of the day, most people simply don't like getting the crap beasted out of them.
Mate, nice linkage! i have booked my first session in reading. nice one fella, i'll also be sure to tell them i'm joining the Marines so they take 'special care' of me. :)
 

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I suppose people who have been in any branch of the Military before they begin RT have a bit of an advantage,
because obviously they know what the average day is like,
whether they can take beastings or not,
so the only real issue for them is the extra phys.

But for a lot of people it's a bit of a shock to the system,
even more so for the younger ones,
not many 16-20 year olds have experienced anything like it.

Joe
 

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There are tons of reasons why people want out during RT.

Some people can't take the beastings or being talked to like *text deleted**text deleted*, but to be honest its what I would expect.

For a lot of them it doesn't meet their expectations. Some of that can be advertisings fault. On that Commando show one lad said he felt claustrophobic, constantly surrounded by soldiers and weapons, but what would you expect...another wanted it to further his football career, but then understood that he would have to serve in a combat zone.

All of the guys though go in with all of the enthusiasm that we have yet change their view later on. One guys was really excited and enthusiastic but changed his mind eventually. You will find though a lot of people go at a young age and struggle with it, and will come back later on.

Personally I crave a disciplined and structured atmosphere, and would benefit greatly from more a structure training program. I would love to get some beastings, someone to push me, so I will look in to this military fitness.
 
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I suppose people who have been in any branch of the Military before they begin RT have a bit of an advantage,
because obviously they know what the average day is like,
whether they can take beastings or not,
so the only real issue for them is the extra phys.

But for a lot of people it's a bit of a shock to the system,
even more so for the younger ones,
not many 16-20 year olds have experienced anything like it.

Joe
Very true. I am extremely fortunate to have had the opportunity to serve one of my countries before. It's why I keep preaching British Military Fitness because you get a good 'extra phys' from these guys. Especially for the young-uns on this site, that experience is extremely valuable. In the least it serves as a real test to see if you actually can stand that state of physicality for an hour.

Marco, good on you for signing up. Don't be ashamed to start of slowly though. There's nothing wrong with wearing a blue bib...in fact I think the PTI's will probably insist on it until they guage your ability and place you where they see fit afterwards. Of course, if you're confident then jump straight in the fire, it's always the best way hehe. If you're in for the long haul though it's probably best to start in a low gear and build yourself up so you reduce the risk of injury.
 

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There are many reasons for people wanting to quit RT and until you get to RT you won't know how your going to react to the shock of it all wich it is for most people. Regardless to how much you want to be a Marine before RT your mind can suddenly change when you enter it and you mite realise that the lifestyle really isn't quite for you.

There was plenty of people who quit before I left RT and some of them realised that it just simply wasn't for them. All the lads in the troop talk to eachother about anything and everthing and every so often a lad would say he is thinking about quiting and we would talk to them and encourage them to stay but also ask them whats bothering them and why they want to leave and they would tell us that it isn't what they want because of the lifestyle and that they just don't desire it anymore. Some would leave because once in RT the reality of being a Marine kicks wich sounds silly because you would of thought they would have known what the Marines are all about but when your there in training you get a different perspective and view of things wich puts alot of people off, and one lad told me out of the blue he doesn't want to be involved in conflict at all anymore so he left.

Alot of the young lads found it hard because they had to do alot of growing up very quickly as they had entered the big mans world so some struggled with that and a few left, some of them got home sick as it was their first time away from home and for a 16-17 year old to leave home for the first time living on a military training establishment going through one of the worlds toughest infantry training courses.....well it doesn't take a smart person to see that that is a big step to take *text deleted* so that would obviously be a massive shock to the young fella and can quite easily make them want to leave.

I had my mind set on joining the Marines for years, I read up about them all the time in books and on the internet, watched programmes about them ect trained hard before and during selection so i was quite keen. When I got into RT it wasn't half a shock to my system *text deleted* and didn't think i would feel the way i felt on those first few days wich was quite honestly "is this for me???" but i kept reminding myself how much i wanted to be a Royal Marine so cracked on also speaking to the other lads helped aswel as they all seemed to have exactly the same feelings so it was was great as we all had eachother to talk to if you felt down. I was 18 when i joined and I'v been away from home before but not for weeks on end so home sickness occurred, i had a girlfriend who i missed bl*text deleted*dy loads but so did lots of other lads so again I'd chat to them, but none of that made me want to leave.

On the last 2 weeks leading upto summer leave i had thought maybe i would like more life experience but stuck at it for the next 2 weeks for leave. Once on leave I felt relaxed and decided i still wanted to carry on with training but on the last week of leave my grandad and best freind had died so emotions were everywhere and knowing i had to go back to ctc was hard as I wanted to be with my family and friends to cope through the differcult time so i decided i'd quit and that extra life experience will do me some good aswel as being home to cope with the losses. A year on and here i am ready to give RT another bash once I'v finished the course I'm doing so i'm looking forward to it. I've not stopped thinking about re-joining since i left as i Knew when i decided to quit that i would definately re-join as i did have a good time at ctc.

Anyway RT isn't impossible and anyone who has the desire and passion to be a Marine should give it a shot as it might be the best decission you ever make or not...only way to find out is to get down there try your very hardest

cheers

Macca
 
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A good post, and a great insight. Makes you think. Thanks Macca.

Sorry for your loss.

Great to hear you're giving it another shot.
 
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