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Discussion in 'RM Officer questions' started by HHHNNN, Oct 12, 2008.

  1. HHHNNN

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    hi, just a few questions for you:
    1) After finishing your stint as a troop commander are you able to return to this job at a later time in your career?
    2) Do you have to take a specialisation? if not what would your job be?
    3) What would a typical day of an officer consist of?
    4) Ive heard that in a firefight an officer would rarely need to fire his weapon. Is this true?

    sorry if these questions sound a bit dense I just need to is all.
     
  2. Death-Oar-Glory

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    Hey, I'm nowhere in the same league as Ninja and RMRO, but I'll have a quick go at a couple of your questions:

    1) After being a trp. commander, generally you'll be on your way up the promotion ladder, and henceforth in charge of larger bodies of men. Once you leave being a trp. commander, I can imagine it would take very special circumstances to get you back to it (ie not enough YO passing out to fill in all the troops)
    2) I'm not sure if you have to take a specialisation, however if you didn't, you'd stay on general duties I assume.
    3) I'm in no position to answer this I'm afraid!
    4) To an extent. The point of an officer in a firefight is to bring to bear all the potential firepower available to win the firefight. An officer may well not be firing his weapon due to focussing on his men, giving GRIT, on the radio to other sections/trps/hq. An officer would not be focussing so much on personally killing the enemy or suppressing the enemy, but on making the best tactical decisions so as to most efficiently and effectively take out the enemy.
     
  3. RM Recruiting Officer

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    Largely speaking, the above post is pretty accurate so well done.
    With regards question 3, no day is the same so I can't really answer that question with any useful information.
    Question 4. As a Troop Commander on patrol in Afghanistan, you have an enormous number of assets at your disposal. You have 81mm mortars at least and probably Close Air Support. Your job involves the control of these assets as well as the 3 sections in your troop. Chances are, you are too busy to be firing your rifle. You can bring many more effects onto the enemy besides one barrel firing 5.56mm ammo. You need to think of the bigger picture. If you just want to shoot and be told what to do then you should look at joining as a Recruit not an Officer. We get paid to think, lead and command.
     
  4. HHHNNN

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    thanks for the answers guys, appreciate it but with regards to the officer firing his weapon question( i know it's abit of a dense question). I saw something in an army thing that i got at a careers day about 6 months ago. it said that in a 6 month tour of afghanistan. A platoon commander would fire 1000 rounds,throw 15 grenades and call in 30 air strikes so i guess its down to the officers preference wether he shoots or not.
     
  5. RM Recruiting Officer

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    How accurate do you think those figures are? I would say that they vary enormously depending on what job you will be doing. I highly doubt you will be throwing any grenades though, no matter what you are doing.
    If you want to be a Rifleman, join as a recruit.
     
  6. HHHNNN

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    Yeah i suppose, maybe he just had a really really hectic tour.
    The article was used to try and show and people that officers get stuck in just as much as the lads.
    I think the article was titled "think commanders sit safe in a bunker all day?.....wrong."
    If an officer doesn't use his weapon would he caryy less ammo?
     
  7. Chris

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    I would think he would carry the same amount of ammunition as any front-line infantry soldier, if not only to lead by example, then for that possible fire fight when he and his men would need every drop of ammunition possible.
     
  8. RM Recruiting Officer

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    He carries exactly the same amount of ammunition.
     
  9. Death-Oar-Glory

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    That, plus in the firefight, if one of his men needs a magazine, he has the ammunition available to 'wang' over to his oppo, without thinking, 'Am I going to be needing this?'
    Plus, then he's carrying the same weight as his men. (give or take)
     
  10. HHHNNN

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    yes, i do understand that your main job is organising the men and getting them to do their job.
    Not doing this and going "lonewolf" would do you or the troop no favours, however i would find it incredibly fustrating never to fire a shot in anger.
    Maybe thats just me.

    There is footage of Prince Harry, whom i believe is an officer in the blues and royals firing a 50.cal at the taliban although i believe this is put on for the cameras
     
  11. Blue Man

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    I came over here from Mfat, mainly because I was attracted by the amount of people going for a Commission. But a common theme I've seen, whilst as a guest and now as a member is how long can an Officer stay on the front line.

    It costs a huge amount of money to train a Rating, let alone YO's doing 15 months. At the AIB they want to see who is going to be worth their money and can make it past a Troop OC. They want to see who can progress, and more importantly, who has the drive to progress up the chain of command, how many of you don't want to go all they way and one day be the Commandant General RM? Obivously, they don't expect you to walk in the door and already be ready to lead a troop etc, but you get what I mean. I doubt they will be too interested if the candidate only expresses an interest to resign his Commission after the mandatory 5 years, because he wants to spends as much time as he can on the front line. (RMRO- correct me if I'm wrong, just going be what my Dad told me, possibly I've taken it the wrong way).

    I think there is sometimes the line of thought that if I don't go to University, that means I won't join with any seniority thus not skipping Lieutenant and therefore being able to spend longer in a Rifle Troop. Unless you're pretty outstanding, I'd reccomend University. I didn't want to it last year, so I've taken a year out, got a job and submitted a UCAS application for 2009 entry. It offers so many oppourtunities, just make sure you go to a decent Uni, and do a decent course. There are plenty of Micky Mouse degrees out there. Make sure you stand out!

    If you want to spend a larger period of your career in a Rifle Troop, then join as a Rating. I saw one guy on here said "Can I refuse promotion to Captain?" I was like "Why"?!?

    Anyway, just my two penny's worth!

    David
     
  12. HHHNNN

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    Alot of officers join up to be on the front line. You only really get taken out of the field when you are really high up. By which i mean past Major
    Ever heard of Leuitenant colonel Hedwing Jones? He died singly handidly Attacking an Argentinean Fortified position, so his men could get cover.
    The most important command a leader can give is "follow me"
    Well, thats my opinion
     
  13. WAH

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    But can an officer refuse promotion to major
     
  14. Fibonarchie

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    You can refuse any promotion I believe.
     
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  15. WAH

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    But would there be any form of punishment for doing this?
     
  16. WAH

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    Thanks for the reply by the way i just realised this thread is about 8 years old
     
  17. BoxSwallow

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    No? Why would there be o_O or am I being stupid?
     
  18. WAH

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    Oh because the only things i have read about this is from the spams and they have an up or out system which means if you get turned over for promotion a few times you do not get allowed to reenlist
     
  19. BoxSwallow

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    Ah right well I don't know then haha :D
     

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