Random Comparison

[matthewwookie]

Morning guys,

After watching Under Seige last night, I got to thinking what american regiments/corps compared with British ones. This is what I think, anyone else think something different......sorry, bit random but its wednesday morning and I'm bored :shock: :? :*text deleted**:

US Marines - British Army Infantry
Delta Force - SAS
Seals - SBS/RMC (SBS for more specialist stuff, marine for everything else)
Ranger - Pathfinder

Cheers

Matt

Mod Edit: Been done many times before and always ends the same way. Thread locked.

 

[alan wilson]

yanks = all the gear no idea...so full of bravado its unreal

 

[Rob]

Yeah I think Navy seals is like in between RMC and SBS. However I think SAS is better than Delta.
Personally I hate the yanks, they think there all class when really there just fat, loud n stupid. Could any of the ex RMCs who served with the americans tell us what their really like?

 

[alan wilson]

Yeah I think Navy seals is like in between RMC and SBS. However I think SAS is better than Delta.
Personally I hate the yanks, they think there all class when really there just fat, loud n stupid. Could any of the ex RMCs who served with the americans tell us what their really like?

i heard about this competition that the yanks run every year....some one from my regiment had some thing to do with it.

some thing to with getting across the nevada desert or some thing like that..

any way its for the special forces.....we have won it near on every year.

except we only send the the royal engineers...not special forces *text deleted*

 

[Phoenix]

I heard or read somewhere that the yanks tried to go into the mountains in Afghanistan to flush out the Taliban...... some time later im not sure the actual time it could have been hours or days they came back out as they couldnt opperate in those conditions. Anyway it was the Royal Marines who went up their and lived in mountains as did the paras and took the fight to the Taliban. If ive gotten this wrong feel free to correct me however im sure it demonstrates Alans point of them being all gear and bravado and nowt else *text deleted*.

 

[alan wilson]

I heard or read somewhere that the yanks tried to go into the mountains in Afghanistan to flush out the Taliban...... some time later im not sure the actual time it could have been hours or days they came back out as they couldnt opperate in those conditions. Anyway it was the Royal Marines who went up their and lived in mountains as did the paras and took the fight to the Taliban. If ive gotten this wrong feel free to correct me however im sure it demonstrates Alans point of them being all gear and bravado and nowt else *text deleted*.

useless mate......i went adventure training in southern germany (garmish)..any way we met some delta force soliders...at least we think they were...all they did was brag about it ...not really to clever bein special forces...but any how.

we had bet we could get up and down this particular mountain near there camp.

we got up and about a 1/4 way back down before they had reached the summit as we stopped for food and saw them pass by...

we nailed em...and we had been on the piss big time the night before with all these soldiers and once we arrange this challenge...they all stopped drinking

useless!

 

[Phoenix]

Its scary to think that this is the kind of soldier the yanks are churning out quantity rather than quality i say.

 

[Ulick]

If you ever read Dick Couch' (former Navy SEAL *text deleted*) book on the SEAL's in Iraq and Afghanistan called "Down range" he's interviewing SEAL's and they have nothing but praise for the RM's, the RM's "regulars not SBS" went in with SEAL teams during the initial assault on the oil terminals and one SEAL said he doesn't know why the RM's in general are not classed as SF, they would be in the US :*text deleted*:


Anyway people often compare the RM's with the USMC, which IMHO is balls, the USMC bar a few specialsied elite and very good units are basically infantrymen (good ones tough well trained ect) on ships, not commandos, US Marines don't go through the same crap as RM's recruits, they don't as a whole do arduous terrain training Jungles/Mountains/Arctic ect, they don't operate down to the small units the RM's do, plus the USMC is basically an army made small, they have their own MBT's, aircraft heavy artillary ect plus there are 120 thousand of them :? if anything the RM's would be similar to the Rangers, small fast moving raiders

 

[Ulick]

Its scary to think that this is the kind of soldier the yanks are churning out quantity rather than quality i say.

I wouldn't say they Yanks don't have quality, yes they depend on technology alot but they do have quality, the Marines are good, it's just a lot of the Army is made of of people enticed in to do 3 years and get money for collage, the recruitment ad's up untill the last few years were all about the benefits of the army, money, school travel and very little of the might have to kill/die part, the Marines never mentioned money for anything they just set it up like the RM's did "are you good enough for us" kind of deal.

 

[Ty]

How about we include some Canadians here as well *text deleted*, the JTF 2 ( Joint Task Force ) are very good, and professional. A very decent anti terrorism special forces group. Personally the russian Spetsnaz always intrigued me as well.

 

[Rob]

what got you interested in the Royal Marines then Ty? obviously joining the Canadian armed forces would have been the easier option since I imagine it being quite hard to join from another country. What inspired you about the British forces? and how far are you through the application?

 

[Ty]

You might think this sounds kind of lame, but this is my reasoning. 1 thing being both of my brothers are already in the Canadian forces, I dont *text deleted* follow there footsteps and just be another shadow. I want my own adventure and lessons in life.

As for the JTF2, they only get people from the army that have been in for a few years, and thats still a maybe. I don't want to join, and wait 3 years to maybe be selected. With the Marines, you know, or should have an idea what your getting yourself into. If you pass, you deserve it. I might never even get the chance here, they have to approach and select you. I dont feel like throwing the dice and hoping since Im already 25.

Also, not to the mention I do believe the Royal Marines to be the best on earth. And as far as the application, I still need to talk to a recruiter, but not for awhile. Im getting lazer eye surgery done on November 9th, and I have a 12 month wait after that for my eyes to heal, so I have plenty of time to get in better shape and apply.

 

[ste preece]

Underestimate

In a snow hole during M&AW training I once asked my Commanding Officer what he thought about the fighting ability of other country's elite fighting troops and his answer was:

"It pays to never underestimate anybody."

That summed it up for me guys.

Cheers

Steve

 

[Ulick]

Re: Underestimate

In a snow hole during M&AW training I once asked my Commanding Officer what he thought about the fighting ability of other country's elite fighting troops and his answer was:

"It pays to never underestimate anybody."

That summed it up for me guys.

Cheers

Steve

Wise words...I should probably shut up ops:

 

[pompey606]

i watched the rock for the 100th time last night, the navy seals in that reminded me of the SBS, untill they charged into a room and got ambushed and blown to *text deleted*!

 

[brucetee]

You might think this sounds kind of lame, but this is my reasoning. 1 thing being both of my brothers are already in the Canadian forces, I dont *text deleted**text deleted** follow there footsteps and just be another shadow. I want my own adventure and lessons in life.

As for the JTF2, they only get people from the army that have been in for a few years, and thats still a maybe. I don't want to join, and wait 3 years to maybe be selected. With the Marines, you know, or should have an idea what your getting yourself into. If you pass, you deserve it. I might never even get the chance here, they have to approach and select you. I dont feel like throwing the dice and hoping since Im already 25.

Also, not to the mention I do believe the Royal Marines to be the best on earth. And as far as the application, I still need to talk to a recruiter, but not for awhile. Im getting lazer eye surgery done on November 9th, and I have a 12 month wait after that for my eyes to heal, so I have plenty of time to get in better shape and apply.

JTF2 for the Win *text deleted** I heard Canadian Forces can earn the green beret and dagger? True ? Its call the all arms course??

 

[who dares wins]

Personally i hate when you see on Youtube people argueing over which side is better, Yes a certain side will have advantages an disadvantages. And you'll always will get the certain prats, but just because you've seen one or two being like that does'nt mean the whole side is, We should respect all these men in the forces! (Not going at anyone on this thread!)

 

[Ice]

US Navy Seals.... Have you seen what those lads must go through to become one? Those lads are nails man, equally as tough mentally and physically as our SF, and if I were stuck somewhere with one, id be more than happy with that predicament.

 

[Elliott]

Wasnt the Officer who presented the idea of Delta force also in the SAS.