Ranks and pay

[Dom2595]

Just wondering if anyone could tell me the pay grade for different ranks , I know as a marine out of training it's around 17k, but how long till the wage gets better , does it improve every year sort of thing , how much usually if so ? Or does it only get better once you specialise or move up the ranks , what's the kind of 'going' amount it goes up if you specialise ? Cheers guys !!

 

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After 26 weeks of training, pay rises from 14,784 to 18,000. There are then 9 different levels for a Marine to go through, each time receiving a pay increase. I've heard that LCpl is Level 5 (25,000 - 27,000?) but don't know for certain. I think upon completing a specialization you are promoted to LCpl but again I don't know for certain.

As you can see I don't know a huge amount but hopefully that gives a rough idea, I don't think there is a definitive answer because so many things are taken into account, probably one for @Ninja_Stoker

 

[Dom2595]

After 26 weeks of training, pay rises from 14,784 to 18,000. There are then 9 different levels for a Marine to go through, each time receiving a pay increase. I've heard that LCpl is Level 5 (25,000 - 27,000?) but don't know for certain. I think upon completing a specialization you are promoted to LCpl but again I don't know for certain.

As you can see I don't know a huge amount but hopefully that gives a rough idea, I don't think there is a definitive answer because so many things are taken into account, probably one for @Ninja_Stoker

Thanks for the info man!

 

[Dom2595]

Can anyone tell me how the ranks go also ? Can't find anywhere , do you get promoted to lance corporal , then corporal ?

 

[The guide]

PAY SCALES..
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/a-new-pay-model-for-the-armed-forces

The above is the full document (via the link) and explains the lot...The link below goes direct to the actual pay rates. listed on page 21 of the document.

Pay 16: the armed forces pay model

 

[Dom2595]

PAY SCALES..
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/a-new-pay-model-for-the-armed-forces

The above is the full document (via the link) and explains the lot...The link below goes direct to the actual pay rates. listed on page 21 of the document.

Pay 16: the armed forces pay model

Thanks mate

 

[Caversham]

I think upon completing a specialization you are promoted to LCpl but again I don't know for certain.@Ninja_Stoker

Incorrect. If you complete an SQ as a Marine, then you will stay as a Marine until you choose to go for promotion. The only exceptions are those SQs that require you to be at Cpl before undertaking the course, such as PW, PTI, DL and ML.

Alan

 

[Dom2595]

Incorrect. If you complete an SQ as a Marine, then you will stay as a Marine until you choose to go for promotion. The only exceptions are those SQs that require you to be at Cpl before undertaking the course, such as PW, PTI, DL and ML.

Alan

How long do you have to stay as marine for before you can go forward for promotion ? Or whats the least amount of time ? I'm assuming it varies a lot ?

 

[Caversham]

How long do you have to stay as marine for before you can go forward for promotion ? Or whats the least amount of time ? I'm assuming it varies a lot ?

Yes it does. I guess on average you're looking at around 4 years for Cpl, 9 years or so for Sgt. As always there are exceptions. Those awarded the KB would be expected to gain promotion quicker.

The Troop Sgt who took me through training had 4 years in. When he passed out as a KB he was loaded onto a JCC, which he passed with distinction and was automatically promoted and joined his first Unit from training as a Cpl. During the next three years he took and passed PW3(s), PW2, PW1 and an SCC, all within 4 years of joining as a recruit. He then went on to become an RSM and finally retired as a Major.

An exception rather than the rule!

Alan

 

[Ninja_Stoker]

How long do you have to stay as marine for before you can go forward for promotion ? Or whats the least amount of time ? I'm assuming it varies a lot ?

It depends on the individual. Lance Corporal is not a mandated rank before Corporal, you can go straight to Corporal from Marine 1st Class, in fact most do.

L/Cpl tends to be a role appointment depending on the unit you are serving with, the senior Marine, if you will. Not necessarily appointed on time served, but a requirement, the ability and suitability.

Not so long back it was theoretically possible to achieve Corporal in 4 to 6 years but as the average Royal is serving nearer 11 years nowadays, unless absolutely exceptional, the average time to Corporal is currently 6 to 8 years.

 

[Ninja_Stoker]

....just to add, the reason I'm aware of this seemingly random info is a colleague of mine has to calculate what probable rank an individual would have attained had they continued to serve. This is for the purpose of compensation cases. The number crunching involved involves all sorts of random inputs such as initial recruit test score, average length of service by rank, branch of service, etc.

The RN Pocket Brief gives 'interesting' stats in table 12. OR4 is Corporal, OR6 Sergeant, etc. The "average Marine" joins the trained strength aged about 21.5

The pocket brief for October 2016, incidentally indicates there's a surplus of 270 Royal Marine Trained Ranks, down from 410 in July. The outflow of trained ranks seems to be increasing but it may just be a "blip".

 

[Dom2595]

Yes it does. I guess on average you're looking at around 4 years for Cpl, 9 years or so for Sgt. As always there are exceptions. Those awarded the KB would be expected to gain promotion quicker.

The Troop Sgt who took me through training had 4 years in. When he passed out as a KB he was loaded onto a JCC, which he passed with distinction and was automatically promoted and joined his first Unit from training as a Cpl. During the next three years he took and passed PW3(s), PW2, PW1 and an SCC, all within 4 years of joining as a recruit. He then went on to become an RSM and finally retired as a Major.

An exception rather than the rule!

Alan

Wow ! That's impressive stuff

 

[Dom2595]

....just to add, the reason I'm aware of this seemingly random info is a colleague of mine has to calculate what probable rank an individual would have attained had they continued to serve. This is for the purpose of compensation cases. The number crunching involved involves all sorts of random inputs such as initial recruit test score, average length of service by rank, branch of service, etc.

The RN Pocket Brief gives 'interesting' stats in table 12. OR4 is Corporal, OR6 Sergeant, etc. The "average Marine" joins the trained strength aged about 21.5

The pocket brief for October 2016, incidentally indicates there's a surplus of 270 Royal Marine Trained Ranks, down from 410 in July. The outflow of trained ranks seems to be increasing but it may just be a "blip".

Some interesting info but! Thanks ninja