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ok lads just a quick question for ya.
How easy is it to transfer from the reserves to the regs?
*text deleted* that you can get a ftrs contract and if you get recomended you can transfer but is this common or is it as rare as a pregnant nun?
 

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It is "do-able", but for some obscure reason some people think it's the more convenient way to get a green beret because you can continue to live a civilian life & can go home for tea and bickies after a weekend exercise or evening drill or training night.

The reality is that it simply isn't an easy option as it requires huge amounts of commitment, sustained levels of fitness over a longer period and a lot of juggling trying to balance your home, work & service life. Gaining a green beret through the RMR will take at the very minimm a year, often much longer.

The RMR is often the preferred route for those a little older than the average school leaver, who cannot afford the drop in income to £13,013 due to their domestic financial commitments and prefer to earn a civilian wage most of the time, but can then afford to operationally deploy after training, as required.

There are also a fair few individuals that are in college or Uni & believe the RMR is a quick, easy way to a green beret thus avoiding 8 months of consolidated training and believe they can then walk into regular service, fully trained. (More on that in a moment). The harsh reality is most people in further education cannot manage to maintain the balance of further education and intense training and often one or other of their goals falls by the wayside.

For the younger guys who do not have the financial constraints imposed by later life, it's probably better to join the regular RM, get paid a working wage of £190 per week (net) rather than £30 per week EMA, get further educational training whilst being paid a wage, and have no distractions or long gaps in your training. As a full time Royal Marine, you are paid 24/7 to train. As a Reservist you only get paid when you are wearing the uniform on official training night & weekends- all the other phys elements are in your time & at your expense (including time off work if you injure yourself in training).
 

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Ah its not so bad, if i'm honest i prefer having the ability to go to uni and at the same time work towards earning my green beret, sure your free time for social life etc takes a knock, but it doesn't stop completly, you just don't have as much time to socialise. However, when i'm on a 4 mile run on a thursday night whilst running passed all these other students who are out on the piss, i feel proud of myself as i know that i'm spending my free time achieving something great as opposed to contributing to liver disease with excessive amounts of alcohol, binge drinking.

Just remember lads, to achieve great things in life, alot of the time sacrifices are needed and earning the green beret and serving your country is time well spent in my opinion, no matter what everyone else thinks (most people i know think i'm an idiot wasting my life).

And its not about money! Well not for me anyway, plus i manage fine with the training/study balance. :bigsmile:
 

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What are your chances of going on tour to somewhere like Afghan in the RMR ???
 

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I don't know what the chances of being called up for, but you can volunteer for it.

I was told that you volunteer and its on a first come first serve basis.

However, EVERYBODY has to go on an operational tour atleast once during their service in RMR.



Oh and depending on the nature of the conflict e.g. the country had its back against the wall, we could all be called up.
 

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What are your chances of going on tour to somewhere like Afghan in the RMR ???

Quite likely, if you Download the Globe & Laurel and read the editorial comment on page one, you'll see the RMR have acquitted themselves rather well operationally.

To date all deployments have been met by volunteers however you must be aware that you can be mobilised compulsorily once trained, even if you are in university or on any other full time further education course. (You can appeal to defer or revoke mobilisation, but it may not be upheld in your favour)

The SaBre website gives excellent information to reservists & is well worth a scour to check out your expected commitment.
 

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Quite likely, if you Download the Globe & Laurel and read the editorial comment on page one, you'll see the RMR have acquitted themselves rather well operationally.

To date all deployments have been met by volunteers however you must be aware that you can be mobilised compulsorily once trained, even if you are in university or on any other full time further education course. (You can appeal to defer or revoke mobilisation, but it may not be upheld in your favour)

The SaBre website gives excellent information to reservists & is well worth a scour to check out your expected commitment.

So assuming things stay as they are operationally, in the current climate, are we very likely to be deployed as reservists studying at university, upon completing training? Or is it dependent on how circumstances change e.g. we go to war with Iran or the UK is attacked?
 

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So assuming things stay as they are operationally, in the current climate, are we very likely to be deployed as reservists studying at university, upon completing training? Or is it dependent on how circumstances change e.g. we go to war with Iran or the UK is attacked?

How long do you have left at uni ?

Reason I ask is because it will take you 11 months (or so) to get your lid, and then continuation training which you do when you can fit it in (to a certain extent). So realistically, from the start of RT you're looking at between 13 and 18 months till you deployable.

When I was in the RMR, there was always far more volunteers than places available. There were GD roles available but the majority of opportunities were only available if you were trained in a particular specialisation that was required by the Corps. For example, a couple of years ago the Corp's required CPL's, Viking operators, TACP's etc for Afghan.

When Reservists were required (possible compulsory mobilisation), our SGT Maj would issue us a small questionaaire. Basically, we would have to indicate our availability e.g. available/wants to deploy, available/doesn't want to deploy and not available (giving reason) and a decision would be made based on this, obviously priority was given to those available and wanting to deploy.

*text deleted*, I don't think you would be anywhere near the top of the list to deploy given your circumstances e.g. No specialisation, fresh out of training with little experience and having fulltime educational commitments.

The way I see it is that Students make up a fairly large proportion of most recruit troops. With current manning shortages the way they are it wouldn't make sense for future recruiting strategies to start compulsory mobilising students - unless we are under a very serious threat.

Obviously, I don't make the desicion as to who will be mobilised. The above is given to try and give you an idea of how things were decided a couple of years ago - things may have changed and could change in the future.

Hope this helps.

Rich.
 

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How long do you have left at uni ?

Reason I ask is because it will take you 11 months (or so) to get your lid, and then continuation training which you do when you can fit it in (to a certain extent). So realistically, from the start of RT you're looking at between 13 and 18 months till you deployable.

When I was in the RMR, there was always far more volunteers than places available. There were GD roles available but the majority of opportunities were only available if you were trained in a particular specialisation that was required by the Corps. For example, a couple of years ago the Corp's required CPL's, Viking operators, TACP's etc for Afghan.

When Reservists were required (possible compulsory mobilisation), our SGT Maj would issue us a small questionaaire. Basically, we would have to indicate our availability e.g. available/wants to deploy, available/doesn't want to deploy and not available (giving reason) and a decision would be made based on this, obviously priority was given to those available and wanting to deploy.

*text deleted*, I don't think you would be anywhere near the top of the list to deploy given your circumstances e.g. No specialisation, fresh out of training with little experience and having fulltime educational commitments.

The way I see it is that Students make up a fairly large proportion of most recruit troops. With current manning shortages the way they are it wouldn't make sense for future recruiting strategies to start compulsory mobilising students - unless we are under a very serious threat.

Obviously, I don't make the desicion as to who will be mobilised. The above is given to try and give you an idea of how things were decided a couple of years ago - things may have changed and could change in the future.

Hope this helps.

Rich.

I'm currently on a gap year and don't start uni till about next september, by then i'll be atleast 10 months into my recruit training, which means i should have my green lid at some point in my first year of uni.

I have no problem with deploying at all whilst at uni, however, my only concern would be negotiating it with my uni and the affect the time out could have on my education, although i am aware that unis do grant leave for activities such as 'year in industry' programs etc.


Another quick question, I'm currently with Leeds detachment, however my top 2 choices for uni are Warwick and Edinburgh, which would mean that i'd need to transfer to either RMR Birmingham or RMR Edinburgh (nearest units to each one), i was just wondering how easy it would be for me to transfer unit and whether or not i'd have to be back trooped or something.


Thanks alot for your help:smile:
 

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RC's post seems pretty accuarate for the current situation as well. I wouldn't worry about it too much - it's very much a volunteer based call up from what I can tell at the moment - unless they get really short of a certain speciality, etc.

With regards to Uni, I would assume they have to follow the same guidlines as employers, so hold a place for you. You may well have to repeat a year (6months tour would be a lot of studying to catch up on) but as you say no different to someone doing a sandwich year inindustry. I doubt any uni would have a problem with this since they will let you defer starting for a year just becasue you feel like it! Can you imagine the public/tabloid outrage if you weren't allowed to complete your course because you'd missed a year serving your country?!? - Uni's worry about PR just as much as everyone else!
 
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