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RMR Advantages & Disadvantages

Discussion in 'RMR Section and RMR Selection' started by lawton86, Jan 11, 2011.

  1. lawton86

    lawton86 Member

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    Ninja, do you think you could possibly write out a list of pros and cons for rmr? You explains things in a clear way! Plus I'm not sure on which of the pro's for full time would apply for the reserves, such as medical dental?
     
  2. Ninja_Stoker

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    OK, I'll start a list as I see it & add/amend as I obtain more data, so this post will grow.

    The first point for RMR guys is to remember that once trained, you are deployable - those who are consistently "unavailable" or do not meet ther annual training commitment together with minimum drill night attendance, even though maybe fully trained Commandos, will find themselves being discharged. The reason for this is that billets are getting fuller and people are still wishing to join - the only way to create billets is to get rid of those who do not continue to commit.

    RMR Advantages.

    • The potential to earn transferable trades (Including: Assault Engineer, Landing craft, Skill at Arms instructor, Sniper, Heavy weapons, Reconnaisance Operator, Swimmer Canoeist, PTI, CIMIC, Drill Leader, Media Ops, Driver etc.,)
    • Kudos
    • Renewable part time employment contract for up to 5 years periods.
    • Ability to leave within 90 days (when not deployed or mobilised)
    • Ability to serve on full-time regular service contracts of up to 2 or 3 years.
    • Ability to choose/volunteer for specific operational tours regardless of parent unit.
    • Free gym membership
    • Word travel
    • Camaraderie
    • Free food & accommodation when mobilised & deployed on exercise or on operations, (or on a ship).
    • Transferable skills
    • Additional specialist training courses to prepare you for specific jobs (first aid, fire-fighting, photography, sniper etc.,)
    • World class training to make you best prepared to serve in a hostile or a life-threatening environment fully integrated with your full-time opposite number.
    • Free uniform clothing
    • Life experience
    • Management Experience
    • Adventurous Training opportunities wordlwide. (Diving in Cyprus, parachuting in Florida etc)
    • Disciplined lifestyle with defined structure
    • A well structured career structure with the ability to advance yourself through promotion.
    • Annual pay increases
    • Forces Discount Scheme- over 500 companies offer service people discount. From Holidays to hirecars to spectacles to solicitors.
    • Possibility of training for civilian driving licence (up to HGV standard) after completing RMR Recruit Training.
    • Free Welfare Service to help you look after your family if depoloyed or mobilised.
    • Lifetime Families support network
    • Pension & paid leave (if earned whilst operationally deployed).
    • No PJFT required to join -BFT pass taken whilst in holding troop.
    • More chance of recovering from injury whilst in recruit training do to tempo of scheduled training.
    • Holding Troop - enables the individual to physically prepare under supervision for PRMRC - and get paid whilst doing so.

    • RMR Disadvantages

    • Much longer Recruit training programme.
    • If you want to join the regular Royal Marines, even as an RMR trained rank - you start Recruit Training from scratch.
    • Limited flexibility with regard training programme (two missed weekends = back troop).
    • No pay if injured when training or off work.
    • Only one Recruit Troop per year.
    • Separation/Homesickness.
    • Disciplined lifestyle
    • High likelihood of serving in a hostile or a life-threatening environment with risk of injury/death
    • Worry/anxiety for your Family & Partner
    • The potential to be operationaly deployed at minimal notice, thus making it difficult to plan ahead with utter certainty.
    • Difficult to maintain a balance with your fulltime employment & keep your employer amenable to the service requirement.
    • Trying to balance home life/work/education & maintain fitness in your own time.
    • Difficult to remain current (up to date with procedures, systems & equipment).
    • No pay to keep yourself fit outside of authorised training periods.
    • Specialisations more likely to be determined by RMR unit location/tasking rather than by individual's choice.
    • Limited free social time at weekends due to ongoing training commitment

    Updated Jan 2017
     
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  3. lawton86

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    Sounds fair to me. I assume it costs roughly the same to train an rmr commando as it does a full time. Plus as you say there must be plenty of people wanting to join.
     
  4. Ninja_Stoker

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    It's probably worth explaining that this advantages/disadvantages list differs to the other advantage/disadvantage list in that some of the disadvantages are compared in relation to the regular service whereas the other list in FAQ merely lists the advantage/disadvantage of regular service compared to a civilian lifestyle.
     
  5. mikemc

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    Ninja, what kind of ID would one need to get such discounts? And when would one be given this ID at the start or end of RT?

    P.S i am looking at joining as a reserve and i don't see any gym discounts! :(
     
  6. Ninja_Stoker

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    All that's needed is a standard service ID card.

    Whilst national gym companies may not be listed on the discount list, it's worth asking as many are franchises & have their own local policy.

    Those in recruit training will have access to the gymnasium at their local reserve unit or you can even ask to use the gym at any other service establishment if you have an ID card.
     
  7. mikemc

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    ah i see, i have an Royal Engineers TA base literally round the corner from mine, i shall pop the question when hopefully passing PRMRC in may.
     
  8. Lead Poison1981

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    Personally speaking, (i think i'm in the same boat as a lot of others), the biggest put-off's on the disadvantage's list are

    - No pay if injured when training or off work. is there any sort of insurance you can get for this?

    - Worry/anxiety for your Family & Partner. especially for the missus

    - The potential to be operationaly deployed at minimal notice, thus making it difficult to plan ahead with utter certainty. I dont mind the minimal notice thing but if I had a summer holiday booked for the same time i'd be gutted that i'd wasted the money

    - Trying to balance home life/work/education & maintain fitness in your own time. I train 5 times a week, is that a sufficent amount of time to be a royal?

    Some of these above are the reasons i'm joining TA over RMR. TA seems more flexible and doesn't demand as much of your spare time. i.e. RMR want 2 weekends a month and the minimal notice thing.. RM's are considered more 'in-demand' than TA soldiers so i'm assuming TA get more notice of tours.
     
  9. Ninja_Stoker

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    To be honest the first two points quoted apply to the Armed Forces, regular & reserve, regardless of service. Most people buy cancellation insurance on holidays, just in case.

    The fitness is an issue for Royal Marines Reserves, but 5 quality training sessions per week should be adequate.

    RMR Recruit Training is very demanding & there is minimal flex to permit individuals skip training weekends. It's certainly easier to manage once you complete training, but for the first 18 months, it's extremely demanding of your free time & there is unfortunately no way of suggesting otherwise.
     
  10. LucasRyan

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    Drill nights

    Hi wondered if anyone can help I want to join the reserves I have every weekend off but work shifts during the week so would not be able to attend the drill nights could I still join
     
  11. Harvs

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    I think they are mandatory mate.
     
  12. Dan199

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    can you not specalize as chef in rmr
     
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    RMR Advantages & disadvantages updated to reflect current Terms & Conditions.
     
  14. james9689

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    Hi. *text deleted* applied for the rmr and I'm self employed with my own plastering business I'm just a one man band..*text deleted* been in the army training before in 2009 based up at catterik in the rifles. Got more than half way through my training and still have all my notes from the best book witch *text deleted* been revising a lot. Will this help me to push corer more quickly knowing a lot of things before I enter training. Not that it matters just a random question. I'm willing to put all my spare time Into the rmr. I was also wondering if I had no work in one week for example Monday - Friday plastering, would I be able to go training that week for the full week? Or after passing training can I get involved with the regiment around the country .
    Thanks
     
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    Welcome.

    Training for RMR recruits is completed as a troop rather than as an individual. Most training is conducted during weekends and weekly drill nights. There will be a couple of two week courses you will undertake to complete training but otherwise, as a recruit, you'll progress together.

    After completing training you can undertake courses, attachments & deployments as an individual - embedded within a regular service unit.
     
  16. James.H

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    Hi all, I have just left an RMR rct troop as I am starting with the regulars so if you have any Q's i am happy to help. The one thing i will say is that with regards to injuries and not being covered by the Corps specifically (the cover stops when you are handed over to the NHS basically), there are some great Reserve forces insurance groups that are well worth a look into and an absolute must! they cover your kit too which is awesome when you see how much you actually get issued! The Wednesday nights are mandatory but as our Troop Sgt said, your order of priority should be Family, Work (civvy) then RMR. This doesnt mean you can bunk off every Wednesday but if work doesnt permit it one week dont worry too much. The same applied with Exercises to a degree, if you miss two though you are gone.
     
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  17. CMT

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    If you are unable to attend one of the 2 week bits of training is it possible to reschedule that or are you just back trooped?

    IE not weekends but longer periods (exercises).
     
  18. james9689

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    Hi James , what made you change to regulars from the reserves?. In terms of kit. Do you attend Wednesday's and weekends in full uniform or in civvys? Obviously going on ex and stuff you'll be in uniform. just wondered were your suppose to keep your locker with all your kit in, on the ta base or at home? .
    Cheers
     
  19. James.H

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    I wasn't in long enough to do one of the 2 week ex's but i have heard from previous troops that if you really cannot make it you can do it with another Unit such as London or Mersey etc. The only downside of course is that you will be the odd nod out which may sound childish but on Ex it is quite nice to know the other lads you are with.
     
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  20. James.H

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    Hi mate, I had a delay in my regular application, took up the reserves in the mean time to 'get stuck in' then decided my civvy job really wasnt able to satisfy me for any longer haha. The kit is all kept at your own house. For security reasons you dont wander to det in Uniform instead you cart all your stuff and change there, this is where finding out who has a car and comes from what direction is vital! we were told in advance what we would be doing from week to week so could plan what equipment you need however with most things in the military plans change and all that ironing you did in prep for your inspections and classroom lectures is null and void when crawling around some field on a map reading stance.