RMR Joining Questions

Youngers93

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I have been reading around this forum for a while now, learning from what others have posted and from the replies given - however I do have a few questions of my own, I was wondering if anyone would be able to answer some of them for me?

Firstly I have visited my local AFCO office this week, but they were unable to answer my questions or provide me with much information to help me answer my own questions. They suggested that I should arrange to go the London Unit HQ and I’d be able to get my questions answered there - that was fine, however, I am currently in the final stages of preparation for a 1900 km cycle race across Europe, so realistically I won’t have chance to get to London till after the event. So in light of this I was wondering if you'd be able to help answer questions or point me in the right direction for information packs etc etc (I did pick up the RM careers pack and the get fit to apply pack - but is there any other information brochures out there which I may have missed?)

In the past I have had a hernia (over 2 years ago), I had it taken care of with surgery and am now fitter and stronger than ever before. Obviously it will need to be mentioned in the medical process, but is this going to stop me from joining?

During the PRMC how many training week blocks occur each year, as in after phase 1 there is a 2 week training block. But how many weeks a year can I expect to take leave from work? Or does it work in a way where it is Phase 1 - year 1, Phase 2 - year 2 etc. That way minimising time off from the civilian career? I have looked but couldn't find much detail or clarity on this, a rough training guide, timings of training weekends and weeks would be fantastic.

From what I have learnt about the RMR is that if you are deployed you have legal coverage for retaining your civilian career/job. But is there any sort of legal coverage for protection of the civilian jobs when it comes to training weeks which will require time of work?

At what point are you committed to the RMR? Is it when you start training or after you attain the green lid? Also how long is the minimum service for the RMR once committed? (not that I am aiming for this - just want to have all the information to cover all possible eventualities)

As my civilian career is a Civil Engineer, I will be required to move around the country to work on various projects. Is it possible that if I do pass the training, that you can flip between local units depending on where I end up getting relocated?

After completing the training and becoming a RMR, I believe I read that it is 12 days of non-continuous training and 14 days of continuous training, which is the minimum requirement for the RMR. Can the 12 days be carried out via evening sessions at a local unit? Or does it have to be a weekend? And does things like adventure training (rock climbing/sailing/canoeing etc) count towards training days?

If I do pass the training process and become a RMR, how does the selection for operations work? I have read a few conflicting things about this. But is it that the RM will ask for a number of RMR to go on operation to supplement their numbers, at which point it will be a voluntary call to the RMR, however if there are not enough volunteers it will be a mandatory selection? Some clarity on this will be greatly appreciated -- the guys at AFCO thought that selection worked on 3 year cycles?

How long are the normal operational tours? Again I have read that they can last from 3-12 months?

Thinking a long way in advance, from what I have read online is that after a few years experience you can specialise into certain fields. The speciality that most interest me in the Assault Engineer. Is it possible to come straight out of training then get stream for AE, or is experience as a GD marine required first? I have read from various sources that you don't necessarily get the speciality that you want, more of a case of you do what your local unit specialises in. From what I have found Scotland is the only AE unit, and it is particularly small? (please correct me if I am wrong on that - never trust everything on the web)
However I have just graduated from university with my Master's degree in Civil Engineering, obtaining top of the year, and a prestigious award from the Institute Of Civil Engineers (which is the national body for Civil Engineers). I have now gone on to secure a job with a top Civil Engineering company, so I was wondering if any of the above information would help me secure specialising as an AE? I feel like the knowledge I have in the engineering field and will continue to develop in my civilian career (particularly structural design and RC design) will benefit the RMR. But working with the RMR as an AE will help me achieve my next big engineering milestone which is becoming charted. I know Scotland will not be my local unit - but is there even the slightest chance I could make this happen?

Finally, money is not the reason for my interest in joining the RMR (nor will it ever be to be honest). I want this for person reasons and to serve among the best - but is there a monetary incentive to sign up, something similar to the TA sign up incentives?

Apologies if some of the questions are simple or obvious, but I have done my best to try and find the answers before asking for help.

Thanks in advance for any reply.
 

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In the past I have had a hernia (over 2 years ago), I had it taken care of with surgery and am now fitter and stronger than ever before. Obviously it will need to be mentioned in the medical process, but is this going to stop me from joining?
JSP 950 refers to medical suitability with regard hernias (download below).
During the PRMC how many training week blocks occur each year, as in after phase 1 there is a 2 week training block. But how many weeks a year can I expect to take leave from work? Or does it work in a way where it is Phase 1 - year 1, Phase 2 - year 2 etc. That way minimising time off from the civilian career? I have looked but couldn't find much detail or clarity on this, a rough training guide, timings of training weekends and weeks would be fantastic.
Two Week Training blocks usually iclude the Reserve Forces Commando Course at CTC at the end of training & Field firings likewise. Unless any recently trained RMR Other Rank can confirm otherwise.
From what I have learnt about the RMR is that if you are deployed you have legal coverage for retaining your civilian career/job. But is there any sort of legal coverage for protection of the civilian jobs when it comes to training weeks which will require time of work?
Rights & Responsibilities for Reservists: https://www.gov.uk/employee-reservist/introduction
At what point are you committed to the RMR? Is it when you start training or after you attain the green lid? Also how long is the minimum service for the RMR once committed? (not that I am aiming for this - just want to have all the information to cover all possible eventualities)
You can submit 4 weeks notice to quit at any point unless mobilised. Generally, the first contract is 5 years.
Is it possible that if I do pass the training, that you can flip between local units depending on where I end up getting relocated?
Yes.
After completing the training and becoming a RMR, I believe I read that it is 12 days of non-continuous training and 14 days of continuous training, which is the minimum requirement for the RMR. Can the 12 days be carried out via evening sessions at a local unit? Or does it have to be a weekend? And does things like adventure training (rock climbing/sailing/canoeing etc) count towards training days?
Non-continuous training is usually accrued over weekends, continuous training away from you unit. AT does not usually count toward your training bounty unless you are employed as trained staff.
If I do pass the training process and become a RMR, how does the selection for operations work? I have read a few conflicting things about this. But is it that the RM will ask for a number of RMR to go on operation to supplement their numbers, at which point it will be a voluntary call to the RMR, however if there are not enough volunteers it will be a mandatory selection? Some clarity on this will be greatly appreciated -- the guys at AFCO thought that selection worked on 3 year cycles?
Mobilisation explained: https://www.gov.uk/employee-reservist/mobilisation
Thinking a long way in advance, from what I have read online is that after a few years experience you can specialise into certain fields. The speciality that most interest me in the Assault Engineer.
Generally each unit will have a designated specialisation rather than a plethora of specialisations and the types of specialisation available to Reservists tend to be those with relatively short training packages.
Finally, money is not the reason for my interest in joining the RMR (nor will it ever be to be honest). I want this for person reasons and to serve among the best - but is there a monetary incentive to sign up, something similar to the TA sign up incentives?
Not at present.
 

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Hi Ninja,

Thanks for the quick and informative reply. Will read though the links now.
 

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During the PRMC how many training week blocks occur each year, as in after phase 1 there is a 2 week training block. But how many weeks a year can I expect to take leave from work? Or does it work in a way where it is Phase 1 - year 1, Phase 2 - year 2 etc. That way minimising time off from the civiliancareer? I have looked but couldn't find much detail or clarity on this, a roughtraining guide, timings of trainingweekends and weeks would be fantastic.

Recruit training weekends are pretty much every other weekend and every Tuesday night, some units vary slightly with the amount of weekends. Phase 1a of training is approx 6 months with a 2 week course to pass followed by a further 6 months phase 1b (Previously called phase 1 and phase 2, although I could have that mixed up!) leading up to the commando course at CTCRM for another 2 weeks. You'll earn your green lid here, however you'll have a further 6 months of training before becoming deployable.

As for training weekends you'll get a schedule before you start RT with regards to which weekends you'll be doing etc.

@R4Robotics will clear things up I'm sure!
 

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Hi Ninja,

Thanks for the quick and informative reply. Will read though the links now.

If your a big cheese civil engineer, then being an AE won't really help you that much.
AE is mega basic construction at most. Rigging up targets from wood.

AE is more combat orientated, it's not like the army who have different trades and go in depth, electricians etc etc. it's iind of a a jack of all trades. Some lads just pay lip service to the engineery buildy stuff, more interested in how to blow it up/break it/de-mantle/destroy it/steal it/penetrate it.
 

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Thanks for all the information and replies. All been good stuff.


You'll earn your green lid here, however you'll have a further 6 months of training before becoming deployable.

Is this 6 month training course, the course you complete in your own time? As in it doesnt follow directly on from phase 1b.


If your a big cheese civil engineer, then being an AE won't really help you that much.

To be honest I thought that as my profession is in engineering, if I have a skill to offer the RMR which could be of use, I should. But I read the AE outline brief from the booklet I got from AFCO and it all sounds really interesting.
 

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Is this 6 month training course, the course you complete in your own time? As in it doesnt follow directly on from phase 1b.

No, it's basically 12 months all in one if all goes well to earn your green beret. Basically first 6 months named phase 1a and the next phase 1b. Pretty much the same right through training, as in every other weekend and every Tuesday night. Miss more than one weekend and you'll be back trooped as they'll be too much that you've missed.

Commitment wise it's a lot, don't forget you've got your own phys to keep up with along with de-servicing your kit and the theory side of things in your own time etc and fitting work in and, if you have, fit family around it. Not easy but not impossible :)
 

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After you have done the first 2 stages of training and have completed the commando course and got the green lid. Do you carry out the additional training required before you are deployment ready with your local unit or at CTC or with a regular unit?

Sorry for the large amount of questions, just trying to get as much info as possible before I commit.
 

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After you have done the first 2 stages of training and have completed the commando course and got the green lid. Do you carry out the additional training required before you are deployment ready with your local unit or at CTC or with a regular unit?

Sorry for the large amount of questions, just trying to get as much info as possible before I commit.

Continue with your local unit... If you have a look at the RMR diaries page it may give you more of an insight of recruit training: http://www.royalmarines.uk/forums/rmr-diaries.478/
 
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