RMR officer selection

jakechan

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I know that you have to be in the RMR before you can become an officer, but when can you apply?

Do you apply after you've finished Phase 1 training, or after you've finished the Commando Course?

How does the training work? How long does it last?

Also, what does an officer do in an RMR unit during training evenings etc? Does he join in the PT training?

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You can make it known from the outset of RMR Other Rank (OR) Recruit Training that you wish to apply for RMR Officer and can undergo selection (AIB & POC) whilst in phase two of training, assuming you are educationally qualified for officer entry and pass your unit OC's selection interview.

Generally you'll finish RMR OR training first and partake in all elements. Once you pass RM OR training you'll undergo RMR Officer training packages (It used to be a Reserve Forces Commissioning Course, but I understand the Royal Marines conduct their own bespoke training package).

The thing to remember is RMR Officers are not directly employable as a regular service Officer, unlike RMR ORs and regular service ORs. You are more likely to be employed in a support role such as unit Admin Officer, Training Officer, Logistics and/or Transport Officer - you wouldn't, for example, be employed in a troop commander role.

In short:
  • RMR Recruits Phase 1 Course - (Individual Skills Training)
  • RMR Recruits Phase 2 and Reserve Forces Commando Course - (Tactics Training & Commando Course)
  • Army Reserves Commissioning Course (Modules 2, 3 and 4)
  • Army Reserves Platoon Tactics Course (PTC)
Note: All applicants regardless of rank or age are required to pass the Commando Course, unless previously qualified. Applicants with previous suitable military service may be selected to begin training with Phase 2 recruits.

RMR Commissioning course:

A two-week course conducted by the Command Wing (CW) at CTCRM. The aim of the course is to introduce Royal Marines Reserve Officers to the qualities necessary to hold commissioned rank.
 

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Not wishing to question the above, as Ninja is better placed and more experienced to know the ins and outs of this stuff, but to add my 10p worth from the "coal face".

You obviously need to be a leader to be an officer and for this reason you tend to be at least a Corporal before you will be considered for a unit commissioning board.

Once you get your pip, my knowledge isn't great but I know, you understake various training, will act as a troop boss for training evolutions at unit level and will need to complete/pass exercises with he regular batch. I think you also need to undertake the planning and execution of unit activites and then once you have proven your ability the CO will award you your 2nd pip.

I didn't think you needed to do an AIB/POC, just the commissioning board. However, the Dark side isn't spoken about much. If you are that way inclined you will find the information out or be approached other than that it isn't discussed.

I suppose the other thing to add is that there isn't always billets available for new RMR officers. It depends on who/what ranks are at the unit and whether ex reg officers transfer out.

In closing - my advice would be to join RMR as an OR, with an ambition of becoming an officer. Not with the intention of becoming an officer, if that makes sense.
 

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I agree with Robbo, most people that go for a Corps Commission (regular or reserve) tend to do so after a few years experience - few are singled-out directly from training.

It may well be the case that a POC isn't necessary for a RMR/RM Corporal going for Corps Commission, but for newly badged Commandos, unless it's changed recently, both AIB & POC were deemed necessary.

The RMR Officer will undergo a two-week course conducted by the Army's Infantry Training Wing (ITW) based at Brecon. It is designed to introduce and practice Reserve Officers in the planning and conduct of Infantry Tactics. This course equips RMR Officers with the basic skills to command a rifle troop of 28 men within an RMR unit, however so far as I'm aware they would not be routinely employed as a troop commander operationally.
 

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however so far as I'm aware they would not be routinely employed as a troop commander operationally.
This I know is still the case.. As you said above you become a watch keeper or another "admin" detail.

Effectively once you go to the dark side that is you finished as far as being out on the ground in an operational role. Possibly why lads wait until they have had their "adventure"

It is very similar with NCOs. You would rarely see a RMR Corporal leading a regular section. It has and will happened and you you wouldn't see a Troop Sgt being a RMR Sgt. The exception to this rule might be when you come to specialisations, but that is speculation
 

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This I know is still the case.. As you said above you become a watch keeper or another "admin" detail.

Effectively once you go to the dark side that is you finished as far as being out on the ground in an operational role. Possibly why lads wait until they have had their "adventure"

It is very similar with NCOs. You would rarely see a RMR Corporal leading a regular section. It has and will happened and you you wouldn't see a Troop Sgt being a RMR Sgt. The exception to this rule might be when you come to specialisations, but that is speculation
Can't talk for other SQ's but I have seen this in action in the HW and all but one of the Cpl's out of all the Cpl's, Sgt's and a Wo2 were allocated lower grade jobs at that time.
However on the same deployment I saw a (Former Reg) RMR Sgt deploy as a snipers number 2, so it can have it's proffs. ;)
 
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