Royal Marines to be "restructured"

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  1. Ninja_Stoker

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    The First Sea Lord Admiral Sir Philip Jones confirms that the Royal Marines will be restructured to better balance a growing Royal Navy.

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    Various elements of 3 Commando Brigade Royal Marines as they conduct a Commando amphibious raid demonstration during Exercise Albanian Lion 14. Crown Copyright.


    With billions being invested into a growing Royal Navy, the Royal Marines have decided to restructure to better balance skills across the force.

    The move comes as part of the Navy’s regular review of its structure to ensure that it suits the operational demands of the 21st century, and is appropriately balanced for the future with 400 more personnel, more ships, new aircraft carriers and submarines entering front line service.

    Around half of the 200 roles being repurposed are backroom function roles, like drivers and administrative staff. Freeing these up to be carried out by Reservists and civilians will enable skills to be used more appropriately across the Navy.

    The other half of the restructure comes as part of plans developed by 3 Commando Brigade, who are responsible for the deployment of the Marines, who decided it would be beneficial to the Corps to make 42 Commando a specialised Maritime Operations unit.

    A Royal Marines Commando performs roles ranging from maritime operations like countering piracy and protecting our trade routes across the globe, to land-based operations like warfighting and peace-keeping. Under this re-balancing, 42 Commando will become the specialised, go-to unit for maritime operations – meaning some of their posts, like heavy weapons specialists, can be reallocated across the Navy.

    No Royal Marines will be made redundant as a result of today’s news – when those in the roles which have been identified for repurposing leave, their position will simply transfer to a different area of the Navy.


    More here: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/royal-marines-to-be-restructured-in-line-with-growing-royal-navy
     
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  2. Rob20

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    Would be interesting to get some views of the trained ranks on here about this.

    From a nobodys perspective this would seem that we perceive Maritime Terrorism a more likely threat rather than another full scale ground conflict such as Afghanistan.

    I wonder how recruits graduating or trained ranks will feel about drafts now. Sounds like regular overseas deployments could be a possibility but then would you want to be stuck on ship while your mates are in Normal for example.

    Interesting times
     
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    What will happen to 43? Will they be solely in charge of manning the wire? or will they still be Fleet protection as well?
     
  4. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    I thought we already had "maritime" operations specialists at 43/Faslane. And they wasted god knows how much money setting up that Fleet standby thing.


    Ah those bright idea fairies have been at the caviar and Cognac again.


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    Does this mean lads are just *text deleted* be told they're not part of the corps anymore, they're matelots now?
     
  6. Ninja_Stoker

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    Dunno. Bagsy not me telling them that :)
     
  7. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    Nah, I would imagine they would either:

    A) be given their current SQ billets in other fighting companies/units
    B) given the option to retrain SQs.
    C) be a Bootneck in a Navy billet

    Actually scrape that, Those are of course the common sense options. So I would imagine that yes the Bright Idea fairies in the ivory tower will probably make them Matelot chefs. Or told to sod off.

    Can't we save the equivalent amount of money 200 Marines cost, by ditching the Officers Mess' Caviar and their bus boys and the Officers can just get the same service the grunts get. A Sodexo hot plate special.

    Could always stick Sandhurts silverware on a eBay, that alone would probably bring the entire Country out of Debt.
     
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    my mate who is in the corp said this "S squadron boarding teams are moving down from 43 to 42. j coy is being disbanded and L/M coy will be doing ship force protection teams (sfpt)
     
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    When you finish recruit training do you get to choose which unit you go to or do you just get sent straight to one?
     
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    From my basic understanding the following may happen:

    1. J company -disbanded in the re-org of 42 to a non "fighting unit" these ranks will be spread across the Corp,.s and then not be filled (120 ranks approx).

    2. Another SQ (Clerks) could be?? - re-braided to the Navy so they hold the manning lines , and as the RM Clerks leave the RN get those slots , but once owned and not filled they can be used for other trades (already done with Medics & Chef,s).

    3. A reduced effort in recruiting...not a reduction of recruiting!..believe we are already 3 troops cancelled so far because of numbers walking through AFCO doors and getting through the process.

    So with these fairly simple steps they will get to the required number fairly quickly...the braided ranks taking the longest to move and own for the navy , but still years left to man the carriers.!.


    Or we could sell the horses the Army owns the kit costs , plus the farriers , some vets , stables (land) ..!.:mad:.because they are really useful.
     
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  11. Hopeful Greybeard

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    They are reducing effort in recruiting and cancelling troops? Does that mean more likelihood of getting rejected or just much longer waiting periods after application?
     
  12. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    Depends on manning levels. In Kings Squad you are given a lecture and a form, you get the option of putting your most and least preferred units.

    Diamonds usually get their most preferred choice. But it all depends on manning. You go where you are needed.
     
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    I would imagine longer waiting periods, unless you have a vagina. Then your application will probably magically find its way to the top.
     
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    :mad: So potentially the standards could be lowered for equality reasons before I could make it into training? May seem politically incorrect of me but I was hoping to get in before any female recruits started being allowed. Guess I need to revise my goal of applying by next January and move it to the end of this summer.... Well, challenge is good.
     
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    Not to mention the RAF Regiment, glorified infantry. They have friends in high places though. Their training is "supposedly" 31 weeks, that's a magical jump and drain on resources.
    OTC, there's a huge saving!

    And a waste of all that money they just spent on bloody recruiting. What was the point in that. That's money that could go else where.
    Could save money by jacking in the whole "females in the RM" social experiment too. That's a whole load of expensive officers and time and effort better used elsewhere.

    It's a shame the RN took the medics billets, I would have liked to see other SQs go first and more options/mobility for Bootneck medics. Clerks, and Chefs should have been right up there.

    So much for "self sufficient" one small step closer to getting merged with the Paras/army for a super awesome commando para regiment.


    It is a sad sad day. The bright idea fairies are getting worse and worse.
     
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  16. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    Don't get me started mate, make your way over to the women on the front line thread and you will find it's been done to death. But sadly yes, the standards are going to be "reviewed" and made "gender neutral" and if it's anything like the Public Services, it means a huge hit to standards. It's political speak for dragged down.

    It's a shame. Get in ASAP, do your time, take what you can, then leave.
     
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    I had a peek earlier but figured as someone who hasn't applied yet it's not my place to weigh in, just going off reports by other countries' military standards after allowing women to join infantry the standards will lower and lower drastically. :( If I earn my green lid I want to feel truly proud of it.

    Considering the whole "restructure the corps to make it more effective" thing how does allowing women join improve effectiveness? If it doesn't offer an actual improvement I can't see the point considering how much it must cost. But wiser heads than mine made the call I guess.
     
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    "A diverse force is a more operationally effective force, a fact proved during recent operations across the spectrum of conflict" - Globe & Laurel July - August 2016 issue.

    Note the classic use of the incredibly vague term 'diverse' and how they make an assertion but provide no evidence. Got to admit when I was handed that issue when I went for my interview it did hit my enthusiasm a bit, but I'm trying to be an optimist and hope that the standards will remain as they are for the forseeable future.
     
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    Allegedly...
     
  20. Caversham

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    And served on paper plates, because the dishwashers are broken in the Main Galley at CTC and there isn't the money to repair them!

    Alan
     
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