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Save yourself £s - Supplements not permitted in Recruit Training

Discussion in 'Stickies/Frequently Asked Questions' started by Ninja_Stoker, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Admin

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    Feedback from CTC:

    Recruits are reminded all supplements, including whey, protein and body-bulk are not permitted in recruit training and will be confiscated.
     
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  2. TripleAce

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    What about like daily vitamins such as Magnesium, Zinc, D3. B12 to help you regenerate and avoid injuries ?
     
  3. Chelonian

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    As stated in Ninja's post. The rule applies to all supplements.

    One reason is that individuals cracking their own therapeutic 'regenerative' regime by taking vitamin supplements or anything else might unwittingly cause unintended conflict with medication prescribed by a health professional at CTCRM.

    Anyhow, that's the official policy as I understand it. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
     
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  4. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    Won’t be a local Boots down the road on Operations to restock your Vitamins.
     
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  5. TripleAce

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    Oh okay thank you, i heard alot of rummers that militery personal
    True true thank you guys
     
  6. The guide

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    Echo what been said above - 100% not allowed for several reasons:

    1. Nil requirement for them - The diet at CTCRM is directed by nutritionists from the Institute of Naval Medicine and contains all your dietary requirements spread over 4 meals. The caterers work hard to make sure the correct daily RA is provided.

    2. Loading of Vitamins can cause false / negatives on any blood tests run if you fall ill with high concentration levels shown of things that with a "normal diet" would not be there. Infections are a big issue at CTC and the medics run CRP tests frequently with guys that report sick , which is above and beyond what most medical centre,s can or do on a regular basis.

    3. Hydration - Loading of any form of "medication" disrupts your Heamodyaltic balance..i,e ratio of water in you circulating blood system , that's why they all (vitamins and supplements) say drink plenty of water.!!..as this is a constant issue anyway for recruits to potentially increase the issue is very unwise , as heat & dehydration is another one of the top reasons for ending up in the sickbay , and if severe enough that's endex as far as training goes for some.

    4. And as TPA says you cant always get them when away , maybe horse tablets claiming to be...which has happened.!!
     
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  7. R

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    There may be a PX :D
     
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  8. The guide

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    And where do you think the (SERVING) lads got the horse tablet / drug derivatives from ..??..the PX..I kid you not , the PX is not a safe place at all for supplements and many sold would fail you on CDT.!!
     
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    I wasn't asserting the PX is safe just to clarify, further its good to be aware all samples processed in a CDT undergo immunoassay screen to determine whether there is a presence of drugs in the sample. A common myth is that not all samples taken are screened in a sample. Substances tested are listed in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, unfortunately for those of us that serve many related substances are used in medical/dental and commercial food processing, so hopefully false positives are rare. o_O
     
  10. Jaykay2343

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    "Magnesium, Zinc, D3. B12"

    Mate, harden the 'eff up.

    They will be the least of your worries.
     
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  11. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

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    Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s remember it’s sodexo.

    So the whole arguements about the food having enough nutrients is a bit of a lie..... with all its halal rubbish and sausage casserole for dinner when they don’t get eaten at breakfast.....
     
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  12. Chelonian

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    The nutritional quality of service meals have been mocked historically as far back as the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. Obviously not an anecdote based on personal experience.

    I'm not fussy. Reheats are the gold standard of cuisine. :)
     
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  13. Jaykay2343

    Jaykay2343 Royal Marines Commando

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    Is it still sodexo in charge of the scran at ctc?
     
  14. R

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    Almost service wide, which is why the lads want kitchens in accom, and the galley is almost a ghost town at most sites if there is an alternative. That said the food presentation and variety does get much better around contract renewal time, funny old thing that..

    I had scran at a RAF battle camp not long ago, prepared by a RAF chief, they actually asked us while eating how was the food, almost fell of my chair. The "value core meal" and desert was actually really good.
     
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  15. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    The RAF were generally good with their scran. I was at RAF Lyneham prior to flying out to join 40 Cdo on draft. Tablecloths, great scran and coffee served in china cups and saucers. We thought that we were in the Grunter's mess! The other side of the coin was RAF Masirah, just outside the Gulf. Landed there on our way back from the Maldives after leaving HMS Albion and being brought home early in time for Christmas. The RAF were not happy with a hundred plus bootnecks in "festive spirits" and the state of the scran reflected their displeasure!

    Alan
     
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  16. The guide

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    I,m afraid you wrong on this one mate , for CTC at least.! They are very strictly governed as to what they put on the servery in ref to calories and protein and carb loads , the issue is in what form it is served...Tofu being a prime example..cheap , not always the first choice the lads grab , but it is there for them , the dietary requirements are directed by INM in relation to what nutrients should be served , i know the lady personally she is always poking them as to the method (food type) of delivery...9 o, clockers is a good example..it is not re-cooked tea as it used to be in the main..byt very few lads actually go and prefer to order a domino,s or such like..Other units outside of CTC , you are of course spot on..very little oversight as to the rubbish they serve if any.!!
     
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  17. Chelonian

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    From an ex-Army perspective, before anyone gets too nostalgic and misty-eyed about falling food standards and nutrition in the services the ACC (Army Catering Corps) was universally translated to 'Ah Cannae Cook.' :)
    But at least two World Wars have been fuelled and won by chips and baked beans.
     
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  18. Firedrake

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    You can find the nutritional information for Sodexo products in the search on Under Armour's My Fitness Pal. Comparing that to regular foods may give some insight as to what is the best food to eat when at CTC. Though frankly I doubt I will have time to do that comparison.
     
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  19. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    You won't! Meal times at CTC are not a leisurely affair where you get to socialise with other recruits and slowly digest the offerings from the hotplate.

    It's more like a mad dash into the main galley and shovelling the scran down your neck in the fastest possible speed in order to be on time, (for that read 5 minutes early), for the next detail.

    Even now I am invariably the first one to finish my meal and eat every meal as if it's my last. It also explains why I suffer from heartburn and indigestion to this day!

    Alan
     
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