SBS get critisized by SAS

[edd91]

I found this article from the telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/26/nsbs26.xml
I don't know what to think of this its saying there excellent in water but crap on land, and just saying that they only swim, i mean the earth doesn't have that much water on it does it :? :*text deleted*:

What's your guys thoughts on this

 

[Ulick]

If you read books written by former SAS or SBS guys, you'll see this sort of slagging of the opposite unit goes back decades and it probably will go on into the future

I do find it funny though that the SBS can't fight on land, although most of it's guys are RM's...ironic :wink:

 

[Ty]

I was under the impression that you become an SAS agent, and then go forward with training to become SBS. I guess Im mistaken.

 

[edd91]

Well looking at both the SAS and SBS selection process there about the same ish from scanning the SAS and reading the SBS.

Bit random like, but stage 5 combat survival looks the best bit, i'm not saying easy are fun with conditions and stuff and been on your own but, you got to avoide been captured by soldiers, which are usually Marines or Paras, hunted by your own breed :cry: then you get tortured when you get caught and if you speak what your not meant to, you've failed, all fun aye :twisted: :shock:.

 

[Ulick]

Well looking at both the SAS and SBS selection process there about the same ish from scanning the SAS and reading the SBS.

Bit random like, but stage 5 combat survival looks the best bit, i'm not saying easy are fun with conditions and stuff and been on your own but, you got to avoide been captured by soldiers, which are usually Marines or Paras, hunted by your own breed :cry: then you get tortured when you get caught and if you speak what your not meant to, you've failed, all fun aye :twisted: :shock:.

They apprently stopped (don't know if it's true) all the nasty bits of selection...not the hard bits but the..unpleasent stuff and all that now, no more handcuffing guys to the railway track and pretending a trains coming, no more of the "sheep dip" they have even again apprently "eased" the times on the route marches, instead of the rigid time you get there before it or fail, they now are more lenient and look for effort so if you miss a time but the DS think your giving it your all, they can pass you, it was something they brought in to help with numbers...according to the papers, so take it with a grain of sailt :wink:

 

[Ulick]

Feel like a big girly walt now ops: ops:

 

[edd91]

Papers aye hmmmmm i think without these people would have alot more correct information, but on the other hand no page 3 :cry: :evil:.

This is where i get the info from http://www.specialboatservice.co.uk/sbs-selection.htm duno bout SAS though just grabbed it from somewhere randomly, but i duno when this page was last updated, but at the top it says 90% failure rate but not sure, quite good site to get info on them though suppose.

Edit: Tortured woops am a right idiot a mean interrotgated ops:

 

[Jas]

Papers aye hmmmmm i think without these people would have alot more correct information, but on the other hand no page 3 :cry: :evil:.

This is where i get the info from http://www.specialboatservice.co.uk/sbs-selection.htm, duno bout SAS though just grabbed it from somewhere randomly, but i duno when this page was last updated, but at the top it says 90% failure rate but not sure, quite good site to get info on them though suppose.

Edit: Tortured woops am a right idiot a mean interrotgated ops:

Might want to edit the comma off the end of that link

 

[Shiloh79]

I was under the impression that you become an SAS agent, and then go forward with training to become SBS. I guess Im mistaken.

HI Ty,

I posted this before about a similar topic about SAS/SBS -

If you want to go special forces, first you must have current military experience & served at least 2yrs before you can apply to take part in the UK special forces selection tests (This is now open to any branch of the services) which you must pass obvisouly ... At the start off the UKSFST you identify whether your opting for SAS or SBS, upon completion of the UKSFST if you opted for SAS then you earn your sand coloured beret or if you opted for SBS at the start of the course then you must undergo further training at Poole, Dorset to go SBS.

Check this link out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Special_Forces_Selection

Check the link out as it'll give you more info if unsure whats in volved.

 

[Rob]

Anyone know how many people are in the SBS and SAS?

 

[Ulick]

Anyone know how many people are in the SBS and SAS?

Classifed :wink:

 

[edd91]

What does classifed mean :*text deleted*:

 

[Ulick]

What does classifed mean :*text deleted*:

ops: ....we fed a school class?.....yah that'll work


slips away into the night

 

[edd91]

O yea and erm Rob what does cannelled mean, think thats all i can see :*text deleted*: :mrgreen: I'll probs get raped when i make a mistake but meh, it will never happen i'm a keyboard warrior 8) :twisted:

 

[Gareth]

I do believe UKSF Selection is the hardest course anywere. Especially the welsh phase, in the brecons an all that . I think anyone who has read about it, nevermind done it would admit this.

 

[bennyd89]

I do believe UKSF Selection is the hardest course anywere. Especially the welsh phase, in the brecons an all that . I think anyone who has read about it, nevermind done it would admit this.

Ever heard of the turkish SF called maroon berets? It takes 3 1/2 years to pass the course and they are trained in absolute everything.

 

[Ashley]

Anyone know how many people are in the SBS and SAS?

As the saying goes "200 in the SAS but thousands claim claim they are"

 

[BGarcia89]

I'm willing to bet the SBS are just as capable at fighting on land as the SAS and the SAS are probably quite good at on ship operations and so forth, they do have a 'boat troop' after all.
Some missions just go tits up and in the comptetive world of the Army and RM that results in the one's that didn't make the mistake sprouting off and making a big deal of it.

 

[Ninja_Stoker]

The original item goes back to 2004 & the criticism supposedly surrounds an instance whereby the SBS allegedly abandoned vehicles in Iraq which were subsequently paraded on local TV at the time.

It is extremely unlikely that a genuine SAS trooper would make such allegations in the press, hence the fact there was no counter-argument, nor confirmation from any quarter.

It was far more likely an uniformed yet gobby individual who visited the area of operations after the event decided to take his pieces of gold from the hacks.

I think you'll find the original item has been withdrawn if you check the initial link that started the thread.

 

[Aussie89]

The original item goes back to 2004 & the criticism supposedly surrounds an instance whereby the SBS allegedly abandoned vehicles in Iraq which were subsequently paraded on local TV at the time.

It is extremely unlikely that a genuine SAS trooper would make such allegations in the press, hence the fact there was no counter-argument, nor confirmation from any quarter.

It was far more likely an uniformed yet gobby individual who visited the area of operations after the event decided to take his pieces of gold from the hacks.

I think you'll find the original item has been withdrawn if you check the initial link that started the thread.

yea when i clicked it it didnt work so im pretty sure it has been removed