SBS open to all services?

JK

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but is this true?
 

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As far as I know you need to be selected to become SAS first. If you complete that training THEN they can select you, or you can ask to be a candidate for the SBS, and then continue with your training.
 

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nah I think its an alternitave to the SAS so you would just have to apply and go through all the same special forces selection and training process from whatever force you are in ie. marines, paras etc my guess is most marines would probably go down the SBS route and paras the SAS route though! then theres the SRR too dont know much about them atall
 

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To serve in the SAS or SBS you have to be in a unit already, unless you decide to attempt the SAS or SBS reserves. I live just outside Hereford where the 22nd SAS are based and know of a few guys in it. Roughly 10 out of 125 recruits pass selection. SBS training is very similar but obviously includes water training, you need previous military experience for the SBS.

Special Air Service (Reserve) - (SAS(R))

SELECTION
SAS (R) Selection and training takes 12 months with two intakes per year, starting in February and September. The components of the course are as follows:

1. APTITUDE

Candidates’ physical and mental endurance are tested, as well as their ability to navigate by day and night over arduous terrain. It culminates with ‘Endurance’ – a 64km march over the Brecon Beacons carrying over 60lbs. Aptitude comprises:

9 x weekends of endurance training.
1 x week endurance training in the Brecon Beacons.
1 x week assessment (Test Week) in the Beacons.
2. STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE (SOP) TRAINING
Instruction in UKSF SOP’S and tactics comprises of:

9 x weekends patrol SOP’s including surveillance and reconnaissance.
1 x week live firing including patrol contact drills and Tp offensive action.
1 x 9 day battle camp comprising:
Live firing assessment.
Field training exercise to test the skills learned throughout Selection. This culminates in Conduct after Capture (CAC).
On successful completion of this training, ranks are badged as SAS(R) and are fit for appointment.

CONTINUATION TRAINING
Candidates who successfully complete Selection will enter a period of probation and must complete the following courses to be fit for mobilisation.

Basic Parachute Course.
SF Communications Course.
Main Training Period.

When fit for mobilisation ranks will maintain currency by completion of UKSF Military Annual training Tests (MATTs) and attendance on one or more Main Training Periods around the Globe. In addition, ranks who are fit for mobilisation may gain one or more of the following additional qualifications:

Patrol Medics
Enhanced Surveillance and Reconnaissance
Languages
Emergency Close Air Support
Support Weapons
Close Protection

Special Boat Service (Reserve) - (SBS(R))

The SBS(R) offers a unique experience and opportunity for selected individuals to serve with their regular counterparts.

Only candidates with military experience will be eligible. SBS(R) are located throughout the UK, but training is carried out in the South of England. Successful candidates will need to display a high degree of commitment and fitness, the initial selection process is conducted at 4 km/h. Continuation training is carried out alongside regular forces.

Summary:

Must have previous military experience
A high degree of commitment required
Unique training packages
Opportunity to serve overseas alongside regular counterparts
Physical fitness entry standards. Candidates will be required to complete the following tests over the 4 day initial selection course:

CFT - 8 Miles (12.8km) carrying 25kg within 1 hr 50 min
Swim test - 500m using any stroke in uniform and retrieve an object from 5m
Gym tests
Advanced CFT 1 - 15km carrying 25kg
Advanced CFT 2 - 24km carrying 30kg
 

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Yeah cheers Oz for that! :wink:

I'm not suggesting that i want to do USKF, i was just wondering.

i;e in the Army and you go for UKSF, you could do SBS instead of SAS.

I preferbly would go for SBS as i can't see myself doing HALO and HAHO jumps, well not unless i was on lsd.
 

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JK said:
Yeah cheers Oz for that! :wink:

I'm not suggesting that i want to do USKF, i was just wondering.

i;e in the Army and you go for UKSF, you could do SBS instead of SAS.

I preferbly would go for SBS as i can't see myself doing HALO and HAHO jumps, well not unless i was on lsd.
who said the SBS don't do HALO/HAHO?....just to make it more exciting they do them into water and at night, that'll sort the men from the boys :?
 

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Roughly 10 out of 125 recruits pass selection. SBS training is very similar but obviously includes water training, you need previous military experience for the SBS.
That reminds me, I keep reading that the pass rate for UKSF is very low, but I was looking at a RN website and they said the pass rate for RM's into the SBS was on average 30%...that seems like decent odds to me, I know RM training means the guys are of a high calibre and used to exactly the sort of hard training you need, but was the RN site a typo/wrong or right?

please forgive me if this sounds like walty BS, I'm just curious :wink:
 

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Ulick said:
JK said:
Yeah cheers Oz for that! :wink:

I'm not suggesting that i want to do USKF, i was just wondering.

i;e in the Army and you go for UKSF, you could do SBS instead of SAS.

I preferbly would go for SBS as i can't see myself doing HALO and HAHO jumps, well not unless i was on lsd.
who said the SBS don't do HALO/HAHO?....just to make it more exciting they do them into water and at night, that'll sort the men from the boys :?
I never knew this.. i just assumed as the SBS are water based... and the SAS air Speical AIR Service.

Do SBS have to complete a 3 week course to get their wings before they can start their training? :eek:
 

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JK said:
I never knew this.. i just assumed as the SBS are water based... and the SAS air Speical AIR Service.

Do SBS have to complete a 3 week course to get their wings before they can start their training? :eek:
The SAS is called the special air service because when it was created in WW2 the nam was used to confuse Germans, so they'd be expecting an air attack but it'd really come from the ground for example, the name has just stuck.
From people I've spoke to the SAS and SBS both do static line, halo and haho jumps.
 

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The SBS can and often do parachute into water and swim to their objective.. This means HALO and HAHO are included in training, SAS and SBS training is identical and done together, those who want to become SBS must continue with the extra "water based" training after the SAS pass out. I think it's 3 weeks extra for SBS.. I could be wrong, it should be longer.
 

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I thought the SAS was open to all forces but the SBS was only open to Royal Marines? Oh well. I thought the SBS was a branch (specialisation) of the RM while still part of the UKSF, that's why the majority of guys there are RM, and I imagine having done commando training might give them that little edge.

While still water based they are just as competent on land, and their roles are very overlapping. I recently got a book that deals with SBS and SAS fighting in Afghanistan.
 

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I stand to correct my self, I have just read: "Previously known as the Special Boat Squadron and exclusively drawn from The Royal Marines, the SBS is now open to members of other regiments and services from throughout the UK military."
 
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