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mactavish80

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hey guys,

i was wondering how specialisations work in the marines? i know as an officer you get to change your specialisation every 2 years, and i was wondering if it's the same for marines.

and, if you get pinged to a specialisation you don't like, can you change after a certain amount of time?

cheers in advance
 

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Every specialisation has a return of service, which as you say is around two years. So technically you could change specialisation every few years if numbers allow.

However, every time you change branch you are effective starting from the bottom of the pile again, especially at marine level, and this can work against you considering you need to have promoted to corporal by the 12 year point.

If you get pinged for a branch, you are entitled to join the branch of your choosing after the two year return of service, but your preferences need to have been put in by 18 months or you will lose your DSS rights.

So my advice is whatever happens or whatever you choose to do, put in for it early and make sure all the right people know.

I'm in a DSS branch and have already organised to join my chosen branch when my return of service is up, simply by sending a couple of emails and making a phone call (and a little help from @Ninja_Stoker ). The corps is what you make of it.
 
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Every specialisation has a return of service, which as you say is around two years. So technically you could change specialisation every few years if numbers allow.

However, every time you change branch you are effective starting from the bottom of the pile again, especially at marine level, and this can work against you considering you need to have promoted to corporal by the 12 year point.

If you get pinged for a branch, you are entitled to join the branch of your choosing after the two year return of service, but your preferences need to have been put in by 18 months or you will lose your DSS rights.

So my advice is whatever happens or whatever you choose to do, put in for it early and make sure all the right people know.

I'm in a DSS branch and have already organised to join my chosen branch when my return of service is up, simply by sending a couple of emails and making a phone call (and a little help from @Ninja_Stoker ). The corps is what you make of it.

You say entitled -

does that mean you WILL be entered for your branch of choice, but entry is dependant on passing all relevant aptitude courses?
 

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You say entitled -

does that mean you WILL be entered for your branch of choice, but entry is dependant on passing all relevant aptitude courses?

They say it's a Year General Duties to get you on your feet and get some experience, but I have seen lads get pinged at 9 months out the box.

Best thing to do is get your JPA updated to the SQs you want, get asking about information on them as soon as you get to your Troop. Certain SQs will be within your troop and you can ask for information from them. Ask your Troop Boss for information on when the aptitudes are.

Don't leave your JPA blank, say nothing about what you want to do and then drip when you get pinged with Clerks.

That being said, if you do get pinged, it's not the end of the world, head down and crack on and do the time until you can apply for your chosen SQ.
 

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Don't leave your JPA blank, say nothing about what you want to do and then drip when you get pinged with Clerks.

That being said, if you do get pinged, it's not the end of the world, head down and crack on and do the time until you can apply for your chosen SQ.

Couldn't agree more with this. Do what you can to get what you want, and if you're unlucky and get pinged, use it to your advantage.

I managed to get on a desirable course less than a year out of training (having been told the wait was three years), but got pinged after I failed the course. Although I don't enjoy my ping, I took a nice pay rise with promotion and should be on a course for my chosen branch within a few months of completing my ping.
 

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I'm interested in mountain leading, if I were to apply to become an ML as an officer or a marine, I was wondering what would be the chance that I would be offered a place after applying? At the moment I'm undecided as to whether or not I want to join as an officer or other rank, so if possible I'd like to know how both would work out. I do a reasonable amount of climbing and kayaking; would having a civilian ML qualification improve my chances of being offered a place on the course? I don't have one yet but intend to try and get one after I leave school.
 

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Just a quick question, i might be making myself look stupid here but what exactly is a "Ping" or "pinged"?
 

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I'm interested in mountain leading, if I were to apply to become an ML as an officer or a marine, I was wondering what would be the chance that I would be offered a place after applying? At the moment I'm undecided as to whether or not I want to join as an officer or other rank, so if possible I'd like to know how both would work out. I do a reasonable amount of climbing and kayaking; would having a civilian ML qualification improve my chances of being offered a place on the course? I don't have one yet but intend to try and get one after I leave school.

The only factor limiting your chances of becoming an ML is your motivation. There's a fair few obstacles in your way; selection for a Junior Command Course, passing a Juniour command course and passing the ML aptitude.

As for your chances of being put forward for an ML aptitude once you make the rank of Corporal.. Pretty good. Waiting times aren't that high. For a lot of lads in the physical shape to complete the course SAS/SBS/SRR offers a big pull factor.
 

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I'm interested in mountain leading, if I were to apply to become an ML as an officer or a marine, I was wondering what would be the chance that I would be offered a place after applying? At the moment I'm undecided as to whether or not I want to join as an officer or other rank, so if possible I'd like to know how both would work out. I do a reasonable amount of climbing and kayaking; would having a civilian ML qualification improve my chances of being offered a place on the course? I don't have one yet but intend to try and get one after I leave school.

The experience would be handy, but not essential and it wouldn't improve your chances of a course, nor make your life any easier during the aptitude or course. Military ML is a fair bit different to Civvie ML. I knew a couple of MLs that were damn good and had no prior experience.

It's a Cpls draft, however there is ML3 or Recce Operator which isn't a Mountain Leader but works in Recce Troop.

Not sure how it works with an officer.

Just a quick question, i might be making myself look stupid here but what exactly is a "Ping" or "pinged"?

No such thing as a stupid question!


Ping/Pinged:
Told to do something, usually a sh!t detail or SQ.
"I got pinged for Chefs! Gutted!"

"I am glad I dodged that ping"

"Ping someone for cleaning the elson"
 

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So the only obstacle is becoming a corporal and then being so fit that trained ranks think you're good at pulling?

Ironically all trained ranks think they're good at pulling!! :cool:
 

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