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How is pay affected within each specialisation? are they all paid the same or are some roles more demanding technically and therefore are more rewarding?

We're still waiting for the new pay model to bed in and no-one is entirely sure how will affect pay for certain technical trades that did attract higher pay: armourer, tels tech, etc....

Surprisingly no-ones actually received a centralised brief on how it will actually affect us. I may ask the UPO at CTCRM to do just that...
 

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We're still waiting for the new pay model to bed in and no-one is entirely sure how will affect pay for certain technical trades that did attract higher pay: armourer, tels tech, etc....

Surprisingly no-ones actually received a centralised brief on how it will actually affect us. I may ask the UPO at CTCRM to do just that...
Thanks for your reply that does help slightly, can you inform me if you find any additional information? :D
 

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I'm just wandering, as I am slightly worried about getting pinged a specialisation I don't want when I do eventually get to that stage (I am far off a the minute), but if I wanted to become a sniper (which will be my preferred choice) could someone please tell me (if it's not an inconvenience) the whole process of me going from a GD to a sniper with every detail included please (etc. actually applying to starting), this would be very helpful to me
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Thanks for your help, another question (sorry!) but after passing out and being assigned to a unit, who would I be emailing and phoning to get me to the sniper course? And also when would be the best time after passing out to start the process of trying to get on this sniper course (e.g starting to email the right people)
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I'm just wandering, as I am slightly worried about getting pinged a specialisation I don't want when I do eventually get to that stage (I am far off a the minute), but if I wanted to become a sniper (which will be my preferred choice) could someone please tell me (if it's not an inconvenience) the whole process of me going from a GD to a sniper with every detail included please (etc. actually applying to starting), this would be very helpful to me
Thanks
A good way of getting yourself in the frame as a viable contender is by earning a marksmanship badge whilst in recruit training. I've known of Royal Marines going straight from training, join a unit, fill their name on a chit on a noticeboard and be on course within a month.

Three things that stop people becoming a sniper are eyesight below VA1, laser surgery & being a barely acceptable shot. The reality of being a sniper, once fully appreciated by the individual, puts a good many off so getting oneself on a sniper course, if you meet the requirements isn't that difficult.

Sniper is not an SQ, so you can still be pinged for something else if the needs of the service so deem. The way to avoid being pinged is to volunteer for an SQ, early days. Even then a ping doesn't stop you being a Commando and employed as such.

I know Drivers who were never employed as such, Chefs (no longer an RM spec) that never cooked, AE's, Clerks & Stores Accountants employed as GDs operationally, etc., etc.

Whilst some may envisage spending twenty years on the sharp end fighting the bad guys in close quarters combat, the reality is quite different. Besides, there are comparatively few civilian equivalent jobs for individual with no vocational qualifications beyond being a combat infantryman. This is one of the things that sets the Corps apart from line infantry.
 

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@BoxSwallow did I just get pinged to talk about being pinged? ;)

I'm not a sniper but I did some of the sniper course before crashing and burning. I'll write something up later on how to get to that stage.

@Ninja_Stoker snipes is an SQ, within the PW branch, so once you pass the course you're a PW(S) and can't be pinged.
 

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@Ninja_Stoker snipes is an SQ, within the PW branch, so once you pass the course you're a PW(S) and can't be pinged.
Whoops, correct it is an SQ.

My point was, PW3 (S), is basically a GD Adqual, so you may not necessarily be employed in a Sniper role (you normally are, admittedly), in which case, subject to the unit/service requirement you could be pinged for something else. PW2 however is a full specialisation which ensures you should be able to progress within that specialisation. Semantics.
 

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Whoops, correct it is an SQ.

My point was, PW3 (S), is basically a GD Adqual, so you may not necessarily be employed in a Sniper role (you normally are, admittedly), in which case, subject to the unit/service requirement you could be pinged for something else. PW2 however is a full specialisation which ensures you should be able to progress within that specialisation. Semantics.

I would say it's the opposite now, it's a full specialisation. Lads that pass the PW3(S) course are sent to either a recce troop as a sniper or 43 as a maritime sniper. The only time they find themselves back in a normal GD troop is at PW2 level as a section commander.

Apologies if I've missed your point entirely!
 

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Fair one, my 'info source' could be a bit out of date (he's getting on a bit :) )
 

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I'm just wandering, as I am slightly worried about getting pinged a specialisation I don't want when I do eventually get to that stage (I am far off a the minute), but if I wanted to become a sniper (which will be my preferred choice) could someone please tell me (if it's not an inconvenience) the whole process of me going from a GD to a sniper with every detail included please (etc. actually applying to starting), this would be very helpful to me
Thanks

Here's a very basic guide for getting any specialisation you want...

1. Put your preferences on JPA as soon as you join your unit. Make it as clear as possible on the system what it is you want to do, and where you want to do it. Once this is done, print a screenshot of your preferences with the date visible - I've had times where changes I've made haven't gone through and I've been able to prove I had done it months before.

2. Politely ask your CSM if your preference has gone through. He's the one who sends it though, plus by showing face you're making your intent known.

3. Call the spec advisor for whatever branch you've chosen and politely ask if you have shown on the waiting list and what the wait time might be. Emphasise how much you want to join the branch and ask what you can do to prepare. This shows eagerness.

4. Repeat step 3 every month. You might feel like you're nagging but being persistent is what gets results. If there's a cancellation you want it to be your name in his head when he needs to fill a space.

5. Hopefully before long you will receive an assignment order to attend an acquaint/course depending on specialisation. If not and you end up DSS'd first, don't worry about it, make the most out of it and use your DSS rights after two years to get the specialisation you want.
 

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Here's a very basic guide for getting any specialisation you want...

1. Put your preferences on JPA as soon as you join your unit. Make it as clear as possible on the system what it is you want to do, and where you want to do it. Once this is done, print a screenshot of your preferences with the date visible - I've had times where changes I've made haven't gone through and I've been able to prove I had done it months before.

2. Politely ask your CSM if your preference has gone through. He's the one who sends it though, plus by showing face you're making your intent known.

3. Call the spec advisor for whatever branch you've chosen and politely ask if you have shown on the waiting list and what the wait time might be. Emphasise how much you want to join the branch and ask what you can do to prepare. This shows eagerness.

4. Repeat step 3 every month. You might feel like you're nagging but being persistent is what gets results. If there's a cancellation you want it to be your name in his head when he needs to fill a space.

5. Hopefully before long you will receive an assignment order to attend an acquaint/course depending on specialisation. If not and you end up DSS'd first, don't worry about it, make the most out of it and use your DSS rights after two years to get the specialisation you want.

Good Int! I like the emphasis of the word "Politely" been in the office and seen it go the other way when a lad came in and declared he should be on the next acquaint for AE. :D Didnt knock. Oops!

Also good to remember that If you get on the acquaint and proof how hoofing you are with a strong pass, dont be afraid to politely chase till you have the assignment order in your JPA workflow for the Spec course. I know of afew occasions when acquaints have been passed and lads have received their DSS assignment as they hadn't received their assignment order for the Spec course. -banghead-
 

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What are the rules on getting laser surgery once accepted into training and passed training Ninja? I'm curious as short sited and wear contacts.

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You are advised to only undertake laser surgery whilst serving in consultation with your unit medical centre. Technically it's self-inflicted 'injury' if you make yourself unfit for work and most people, so far as I'm aware, do it during leave. The same rules apply with regard the type of surgery and unstable or unsuccessful surgery and/or inter-ocular implants could result in medical discharge, so the advice is conduct the research and tread warily.

I have no doubt there will be trained ranks who have had laser surgery in their own time without service medical consultation and no issues but it could go badly wrong if things don't go as planned.
 
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