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Discussion in 'Training Methods and Diet Suggestions' started by mrdlewis, Aug 23, 2007.

  1. Canzmanz

    Canzmanz Royal Marines Commando

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    Used to be into all that dream stuff I managed to lucid dream a few times but it'd never last long.
     
  2. Gretzky

    Gretzky Royal Marines Commando

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    Same here @Canzmanz , quite hit and miss
     
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  3. Welsh_dragon

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    Pre workout before pjft? What you think because of the heart rate test etc...
     
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  4. glos94

    glos94 Well-Known Member

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    Definitely do not take a pre-workout. You will almost definitely fail the blood pressure test.
     
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  5. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    Not unless you want a heart attack. And fail the BP test.

    Pre-workout should not be taken for any stage of any part of the Process. PJFT, PRMC, and RT.

    It's not for a Cardio, it's for weight training. At quite a high level as well. The Four Commando Tests aren't Bench Press, Deadlift, Clean and Squat.

    I wouldn't recommend anyone taking Preworkout unless they know exactly what they are doing, I used to use it but found I get on better without it. I may go back to it for certain things. But for now, I am out.

    You can't just keep banging 3 scoops of Preworkout everyday. There's far too many people abusing it through ignorance and doing damage to themselves.
     
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  6. Welsh_dragon

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    I've never used it so I wouldn't know *text deleted* cheers though
     
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    Nothing related mate, but just want to say good luck with PJFT tomorrow :D
     
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  8. ERFC

    ERFC Royal Marines Commando

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    Never do it before cardio. It's very much a weight training supplement as pigeon says. I'm a fan of it as I tend to do long gym session and maybe even 2 a day targeting different areas of the body. As I'm still at schools it's hard for me in the afternoon to keep my body stimulate through food so it helps me to be able to keep pushing throughout the entirety of my session.

    Only use it though if you know what your doing or know someone who can explain it to you.
     
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  9. Bellionaire679

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    I wouldn't go near pre-workout if you're going to be doing more cardio than weights. However if you're still going to use it make sure the product you use verified by Informed-Sport. Its a seal of approval that ensures that no banned substances or traces of them are in the supplement. Wouldn't want you failing a CDT and being discharged do we? :)

    Here is a link to the Informed-Sport website. It provides you with a list of all the certified supplements.

    http://informed-sport.com/

    Best of luck mate!
     
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  10. Harsh

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    If you don't want to use supplements always could do what I have been doing. 3 eggs in a blender a dash of milk and some milkshake powder a chopped banana, blend it to hell. Then drink up seems to do the trick.
     
  11. Bellionaire679

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    Right I know this is an old thread. But its stickied and its a very long one with plenty of discussion within. However, I can see the potential for confusion for someone here that is considering supplementation so I decided to make a graphic to clear a few things up:

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    Notice the third column being empty? Yeah thats because you dont need suppliments to earn your green lid. Infact, to my knowledge supplements are banned in recruit training.

    Also just because they work doesnt mean you need them. The hint is in the word Supplements. Because they Supplement your diet. If your diet isnt squared away then don't even think about buying a supplement stack.

    • If cant get enough protein in they consider drinking a protein shakes
    • Creatine is mainly used to improve strength - Don't worry about taking creatine, you can get strong enough for the marines without it
    • Pre workout is caffene and Beta Alenine put together - Dont use it unless you need a spike of energy before a resistance training session. Don't use for cardio
    • Consider Vitamin D3 if youre not getting enough sun but don't worry too much about it.
    • Omega 3 can be beneficial too but it dont stress if you dont take it. You can find omega 3 in fish too.
    Take home point of this post is this: You dont need supplements, But for whatever reason you want to take them then the table above is a good point of reference.
     
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  12. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando, Moderator

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    Correct. Take any form of supplement in RT and you'll find yourself on the next train home and looking for a new job, with your service record endorsed with SNLR. (Services No Longer Required)

    Alan
     
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  13. arny01

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    As a matter of interest, CTC conducted a Vitamin D trial some while ago, whereby recruits were injected with Vit D, and others a placebo. It was done with a view to reducing injuries specifically bone injuries I believe? Shows the value of Vit D I guess? As the institute for Naval Medicine is top draw.
     
  14. Bellionaire679

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    Interesting, I wonder what the results were
     
  15. Bellionaire679

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    Found the article however I had to shell out £35 if i wanted to read the full article. But I managed to get the abstract which gives you the gist of what they found.

    But yeah, vitamin D can decrease the risk of stress fractures. Recruits with lower Vitamin D levels were found to have a higher risk of stress fractures.

    So get tanning lads!

    Also out of 1082 recruits 7.8% had a stress fracture(s)
     
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  16. KenDoll

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    I'm not sure if this has been mentioned on this thread but it may help a few out looking on here. I seriously do not see the point in taking BCAA's as a supplement. It is a huge waste of money.

    Yes BCAA's are important for muscle building etc but if you are on a high protein diet or taking whey protein you dont need them. There is around 5 grams of BCAA's in shakes and just by looking at one source of protein (chicken) it states there is grams of the stuff per 100g of consumption.

    Pill forms of BCAA contain milligrams of the stuff. How is this benefiting anyone? I believe there is even research that has shown how useless these supplements are.

    Bottom line, YES BCAA are important but you get enough from your diet! Even if you think they are important, just have a protein shake. They're already in there and still have alot more than in pill form.

    Set yourself a protein target. 1.5/2grams of protein per kg you weigh is a rough guidline. Or 1gram per pound you weigh I believe people use. Consuming half your target will probably give you more BCAA than these pills anyway (*text deleted*)
     
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