Transferring, Rejoining or Joining with Former Military Service

Discussion in 'Stickies/Frequently Asked Questions' started by Ninja_Stoker, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. Lizard

    Lizard New Member

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    They said that when I was in but all they did was stop pinging lads, lads left and were never replaced with matlos, so we just ended up under manned and unable to change branch
     
  2. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    Snag is at the moment you would probably rejoin as a GD but the Corps is chocker at the moment, only accepting SC, SFC, Armourers, VM & Tels Techs.

    The RMR is your best option so you can conduct a seamless transfer to the regulars as vacancies arise.
     
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  3. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando

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    There is a discussion on the OAMAAM site about the SDR due out tomorrow and as with all forum threads it drifted towards recruitment and the low numbers attending and passing PRMC, which is either due to the Corps not recruiting, or PRMC becoming more stringent, or a mix of both.

    I had a search and came up with the following link, published 10 days ago, which if I have read it right, shows the Corps being overborne by about 300, (including Band and Buglers, but excluding RN associated SQs.) Page 12 refers.

    If this is correct, which I assume it is coming from the MOD, the guys attending PRMC will have to work extra hard to make sure that they can secure a place in RT.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...17/20151112-RNRM_Situation_Report-rounded.pdf

    Alan
     
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  4. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    Yep the Corps is about 420 over at the mo' (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...0/20151104_-_RN_RM_Quarterly_Pocket_Brief.pdf) but coincidentally, having just spent an hour with the Corps Colonel this afternoon, looking further ahead, even if there's a manning reduction called for, over the next two years he predicts a downward trend in applications so we will naturally arrive at manning balance without redundancies or throttrling-back on recruiting. The difficult bit is arriving at the right number and not going below it.

    In other words, for those yet to join there will be no lowering of standards but (I'm guessing this bit), sooner or later we will also need to turn the tap back on for trained ranks wishing to rejoin.

    Another interesting titbit off the main man - the "average" Royal Marine serves about 7 years 9 months at present, so that has increased from the 6 year average. Other services are closer to the 4 year minimum service bracket, so the Corps must be doing something right, I'd venture.
     
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  5. Caversham

    Caversham Former RM Commando

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    There was always a "policy" that if you wanted to re-join, then you picked up one of the less desirable SQs. If the guys were really serious about coming back in, then they swallowed their pride and bit the bullet.

    Alan
     
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  6. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    Yep, currently the only accepted re-entrants are Tels Tech, Armourer, VM & SF.

    The only option for GDs or other SQ's is RMR at present.
     
  7. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    Can you confirm if DSS is available, when I called up and asked about rejoining, got the obvious no, then asked about taking a ping, as my SQ isn't on that list?
    I also happily offered to take an Armourers course....
     
  8. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    Speaking to the main man, the impression I got was that's a "no" at present, but the door will re-open in the 'not too distant'.

    Mind you, he was scoffing a caviar sarnie at the time so it was hard to tell exactly :)
     
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  9. bootneckbuzz

    bootneckbuzz Royal Marines Commando

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    Having read this I guess rejoining as a Tankie is out of the question?! I'd happily take a different branch.
    I've even thought about transferring over as a Mateloet MA. Is that a possibility at the minute?
     
  10. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    If you have already left mate, the impression I get is that you have to start a new application for the service you want, crack basics etc. not sure how it works if you are RMR.

    I offered to take the hit and do an armourers course... But they said no. I even offered to take a ping! Still no.

    I don't know if that's gen though.
    @Ninja_Stoker is your man.
     
  11. bootneckbuzz

    bootneckbuzz Royal Marines Commando

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    I'm not RMR pal. Was full time up until 3.5 yrs ago. Might take the hit and go to Raleigh for 10 weeks! Can't be any worse than working in an office with the elsons I work with now!
     
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  12. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    I'd honestly advise considering the RMR as a stop gap. You could get an FTRS post to hold you over.

    I'm fairly confident the floodgates will re-open for those wishing to rejoin the Corps within a couple of years, tops.

    Joining the RN as a recruit, after being a trained rank, and a Corporal at that, would be a backward step, to say the very least.

    RN MA is over a year wait from test to entry, in any case and although the specialisation may appeal, unless they are prepared to waiver phase one RN training, I fear Raleigh would be a blood-bath ;)

    Worth applying to see whether the branch manager would waive Initial Naval Training, but my gut feeling is phase one at Raleigh, for a Corporal may not be a smart move.
     
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  13. bootneckbuzz

    bootneckbuzz Royal Marines Commando

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    Leaving the Corps was one of my worst decisions and I've made some absolute stinkers in my time!
     
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  14. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    I've every sympathy. Still can't believe we are turning away trained ranks but aiming to increase recruit intakes at the moment.

    Hopefully the tide will turn soon.
     
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  15. bootneckbuzz

    bootneckbuzz Royal Marines Commando

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    I'm going to ring the AFCO anyway. See if the fact I was a Cpl opens anything up for me...
    How hard is it to get a FTRS contract through the RMR?
     
  16. Mr D

    Mr D Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for changing the jist of the tread slightly but @Ninja_Stoker what makes you so sure(if that's the right term) manning levels will drop in the future, Thing's outside such as work prospect's and such look as bleak and mundane as ever to me,regardless of what "Dave and Georgie" tell us, are you basing it on repetition of the past ?, just curious.
     
  17. Ninja_Stoker

    Ninja_Stoker Careers Adviser

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    It tends to be a cyclic thing.

    When the economy goes into free-fall, military recruiting figures increase. When the economy stabilises we can see which areas are doing well with regard military recruiting and which aren't. Recently there have been a lot of civilian job -losses in the North East of UK and we are seeing a significant increase in applications to join the Armed Forces from that region. Similarly we will see a falling-off in areas of development where the civilian jobs market is strong such as Manchester & South East England.

    The overall trend for UK Armed Forces recruiting is a generally downward at this time of year anyway, but long-term, we traditionally struggle to recruit in sufficient numbers for "elite" units such as Paras & Marines. We can fill the other shortfalls, but have difficulty in these areas usually. Numbers of successful applications are definitely falling-off, about 30% down on last year.

    At present Royal Marines retention has increased to nearly eight years (from six), probably due to the drop in operational tempo - but, we don't know what's around the corner and all the indicators are, we will eventually go full circle and struggle to meet numbers required. This forum was actually set-up when RM recruiting was really a significant problem (2007) and we were cutting recruit troops as there were insufficient applicants.
     
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  18. bootneckbuzz

    bootneckbuzz Royal Marines Commando

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    Rang the AFCO. Apparently every case is done on an individual basis but other than the branches already mentioned the answer is no at the minute. He said I might be ok though due to being a Cpl. I've filled out the form, offered to ditch my rank if necessary and also opened myself up to any branch, DL included to keep my rank. Also contacted a couple of old troop Boss who are pretty senior now to see if they can help!
    Waiting game now.......
     
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  19. bootneckbuzz

    bootneckbuzz Royal Marines Commando

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    Failing that I might just turn to with Bravo after leave and see what happens!
     
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  20. Mr D

    Mr D Well-Known Member

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    @ThreadpigeonsAlpha @bootneckbuzz , Ireally wish the both of you and any others in a similar position the very best of luck, I cant understand why they would KB trained ranks.
     
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