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transition to Special Operations

Discussion in 'General Royal Marines Joining Chit Chat' started by Lawman, Nov 14, 2019.

  1. Rover

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    The last Pigeon I ate was in Cairo, where it was served as a local delicacy!o_O
    I was lucky I did not get a leg!:(:)
     
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    Nice, thanks for all the info.
     
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  3. GreenNugget

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    What changing to training you hearing? Fast rope etc?
     
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    Yes, there was a recent feature in The Globe & Laurel journal if memory serves.
     
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  7. Trooper149

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    Hi all

    Have just read that the Royal Marines are to be restructured. Some of these plans include the changing of rank systems and insignia as well as the uniforms, equipment and specialized roles.

    What sort of timescale do you think these will take to see a distinguishable change? Can't help but feel excited as plans also show a more focused intent on counter terrorism.

    Trooper
     
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  8. Johnny_Anonie

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    Major-General Charles Strickland, has revealed the Special Purpose Task Group, will be formed by 2021 and fully operational by 2024.
     
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    Cheers, do you think that this reform, will tailor the RM to more of a counter terrorism role, with all the greater emphasis on smaller teams etc? Does this increase the chance of getting combat experience?
     
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  11. Johnny_Anonie

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    It’ll certainly be interesting. The corps will step away from the HERRICK era of being essentially light infantry and become a niche and specialist set of units once again.

    There are much more in the know on here that will pitch in.
     
  12. Rob20

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    Small teams isn't necessarily limited to counter terrorism. Infact it probably doesn't suit CT that well at all.

    From briefs I've had it's alot more about the old school amphib raiding ability. 'small bands of determined men', behind enemy lines kinda deal. But also heard of lads being sent off to do things all on a "need to know" basis. So who knows what's going on, but it's certainly interesting and good to be getting away from the standard infantry style tactics. Back to the Commando routes I hope!
     
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    Good stuff. How does this shift relate to the grand scheme of how warfare is changing? From what I've seen, we are less and less fighting a physical frontier of organised troops and are having to deal more with smuggling, trafficking, cartels, fanatical groups and organised crime. Do you think the SFSG will be maintained or will it be re-merged with the Paras, RMs and RAF?
     
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    To be honest, nobody really knows what will happen. All we've been told is that it should make us more deployable. Whether that be STTTs or Strike Ops
     
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  15. Johnny_Anonie

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    SFSG may not require the same manpower as it did at the height of Herrick, but they have the budget and support of DSF behind them. They are fairly ring fenced.


    Whilst we are on the topic of post Herrick, it was predicted we would see an increase in interest in joining UKSF . During Herrick, applications apparently dwindled as people were pretty much guaranteed to get their operational exposure wherever they sat in the structure.
     
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    By shifting 1 Para from the Inf ORBAT to the SF one they achieved the cut of a Bn in budget and headcount terms without having to sacrifice this Bn. So the Para reg will need dragging out of St Athans. Do Royal & RAF Regt (snigger) still only provide a coy each? Apparently it’s a great draft to get, especially if you get into one of their FSG teams.
     
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    My understanding is that Royal has the equivalent of a Coy and the Rockapes a Troop, but apparently they are all integrated together now and not standalone assets.

    Happy to be corrected though.

    Alan
     
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    So getting involved in Fleet Support Group, would be a pretty good way of getting a look at what SF entails?

    Thanks
    Tom
     
  19. Caversham

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    SFSG is an acronym for Special Forces Support Group. Guys do use it as a platform if they have aspirations for the SF world. Not everyone does though.

    Alan
     
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  20. Johnny_Anonie

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    SFSG is more of an insight as opposed to a stepping stone.


    If @Advocado is still kicking about he can shed some light.
     
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