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UKSF Reserve

Discussion in 'RMR Section and RMR Selection' started by GreenNugget, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. GreenNugget

    GreenNugget Ex Pongo

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    Morning.
    I am an ex Army Cdo, but I’ll keep the specifics under wraps for PerSec. So no stranger to 3 cdo bde. I deployed three times. One telic & two Herrick.
    Thinking about SBS Reserve. I always had a draw towards Poole as opposed to Hereford and kick myself for not applying as a regular. Now I am looking for information, subtlety, on going splash Reserve.

    Right of the bat does anyone know the age limit for ex regs?

    If successful does previous rank carry over? I’m thinking more pension wise. (I’m only out a year)

    Are they only based in Poole? Or like 21/23 are they nationwide?
     
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  2. GreenNugget

    GreenNugget Ex Pongo

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    Further I have my wings (BPC) and a unit PTI class two. Do these carry over?
     
  3. sharpe

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    @TheRubberDagger is probably your best bet for all your questions, hopefully he’ll spot your thread
     
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  4. GreenNugget

    GreenNugget Ex Pongo

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    Also before I got out I managed to get on a jolly and qualified as dive team. But never worked in that PiD

    Cheers @sharpe

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  6. GreenNugget

    GreenNugget Ex Pongo

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    Thank you mucker, just clocked that account!
     
  7. Ninja_Stoker

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    Welcome to the site.

    The issue with regards age parameters is a frequent query and is dependant on rank, qualifications/experience & currency.

    Generally, anyone over age 32 with a break in service of more than 5 years would not normally be eligible for consideration of an age waiver.
     
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  8. Johnny_Anonie

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    I think the upper age limit is tagged at 34 now.

    But @TheRubberDagger is your man for this, I’d suggest dropping him a PM. If he isn’t too busy being fired from a torpedo tube, fashioning breathing apparatus out of kelp or speaking fluent dolphin I am sure he’ll get back to you.

    Enjoy being wet & cold. Bloody pervert. :D
     
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  9. TheRubberDagger

    TheRubberDagger Royal Marines Commando

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    To be clear,

    SBS (R) does not accept applications from direct civilian entrants.

    All applicants must be no older than 34 years 364 days on weekend one of Selection Induction Weekend (SIW) of SBS(R) Selection.

    Information available on the DIN & newly updated MODNET page.
     
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  10. TheRubberDagger

    TheRubberDagger Royal Marines Commando

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    No. Any candidate who successfully completes the selection process will not have the experience or ability to serve in UKSF in their existing rank.
    Please see the relevant DIN for further information on pay/pension and a link to JSP 754 Tri-Service Regulations for Pay and Charges.
     
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  11. Ninja_Stoker

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    To amplify on the above to join the RMR, the upper age for entry for recruits commencing recruit training is 32 years & 364 days upon the day training starts.

    The issue for @GreenNugget is whether the RMR would accept him as a Trained Rank Royal Marines Reservist, thus potentially opening the route for UKSF(R) selection ...if he is under age 35.

    Generally, the RMR Branch Manager will call the shots whether they will accept a person as a trained rank and that usually depends on their recent service experience, relevant service qualifications, rank, conduct record/service history and length of break in service.
     
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  12. Johnny_Anonie

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    Is there still a requirement to go via RMR? I thought it was open to any reservist/ex regular?
     
  13. GreenNugget

    GreenNugget Ex Pongo

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    Apparently any trained reservist can now attempt regular selection direct to UKSF units.
     
  14. Ninja_Stoker

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    It is open to trained rank reservist, the issue is becoming a trained rank reservist (Any) before eligible to undergo selection. The RNR, for example recruit up to age 40 for 'untrained' ranks, the RMR is the more difficult nut to crack because if they will not accept the individual for entry as a trained rank, then those joining must be under age 33 on the date they join.
    Correct, subject to the age constraints outlined above. The Army Reserves maybe the better route for SBS(R) rather than RMR.
     
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  15. Johnny_Anonie

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    I’d imagine it will be admin’d in much the same way Samson was. With selection being run on RSDs then if successful FTRS(FC) contract. It'll probably be in the DIN.
     
  16. sharpe

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    Faced with the challenge of not understanding a word of that I took to google and wow, never knew anything about Samson. Still working on the rest but don’t worry about operational security you guys speak a completely different language to us civvies :)
     
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  17. Johnny_Anonie

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    Op Samson is listed within the public domain via the MOD and various other Government official publications. The role is incorporated within Defence Human Intelligence (DHI).


    It is open to all trained ranks, however you're not going to get any more substantive information here.

    Any trained rank can apply for Specialist HUMINT duties. Information and recruitment information
    available via MODNET by searching for DHU. I attended a brief not long before I left, interesting but wasn’t for me.


    PS. Don’t worry about not understanding- it’s all rather dull.
     
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  18. ThreadpigeonsAlpha

    ThreadpigeonsAlpha Royal Marines Commando

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    Is this the same case for 21 and 23 SAS(R)? As far as I was aware they accepted direct civvie applicants?
     
  19. Ninja_Stoker

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    I believe that's still the case, subject to confirmation by @TheRubberDagger, who's offline this next week, I think.

    A quezzie from me also: I note regular SRR doesn't apply upper age parameters, is this available to Reservists likewise?
     
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  20. Johnny_Anonie

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    The recruitment page still states they accept DCE’s for selection mate.

    It states: DCE applicants (no previous military experience) will complete CMS Phase 1(A), CMS Phase 1(B) basic military training and Phase 2 Combat Infantryman’s Course before attempting UKSFR Selection. All applicants will be supported and prepared for these courses and for Selection by the Recruit Retention and Mentoring Team.


    Their support Sqn however doesn’t accept direct civvies. It states:

    We do not accept Direct Civilian Entrants into the Capability roles.

    • RLC Driver, Chef, Storeman
    • RAMC RMO, Medic (CMT1);
    • R Sigs Comm Sys Operator/Driver;
    • AGC (SPS) Clerk;
    • Int Corps Analyst;
    • REME Vehicle Mechanic, Armourer

    Without opening a can of worms, I guess it’s important to note that 21/23 are no longer within the UKSF group, instead they fall under 1 ISR bde. From what I gather they are really quite separate from their regular counterparts. SBS (R) on the other hand appear to augment their regs & deploy as IR’s frequently.
     
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